Peggy, thanks for posting that and sharing your thoughts on the same. I completely agree with you. Everyone of us, merely by our existence, make a difference to the universe as a whole, we as individuals are a vital component, however small, to this universal balance. I strongly believe in that, and my experiences have also pointed me to this reality, many a times, in my daily life. The outer is the sign of the inner. I don't think that even a leaf lying on the ground doesn't turn around and move as the wind blows just as a coincidence and that it is something irrelevant. There is a reason for everything happening the way it does, be it the birth of a nation or a small plant.

Also, there was this experiment done somewhere in the south east asia based on Morphic Resonance on an island among many islands where the monkeys there were taught to peal off the skin of the fruit and wash them in the water before they eat. So the monkeys on that island started doing it. But strangely, within a short time, the monkeys on another faraway island that had no connection with these monkeys and this island, started doing the same. When I read about this experiment, it only confirmed my conviction that as long as a few in this world project a new dimension of thought or experience in this universe, this projection penetrates total consciousness as a whole that includes all of us, and as such does affect our individual day conscious sooner or later, in one way or another... otherwise, how could be ever explain the phenomena of 12 steps fellowships having grown into millions now all over the world from the consciousness of just two drunks who believed that this program and recovery thru it was possible in the 1930s?

Anyway, thanks for giving me an opportunity to express thoughts from my consciousness here at MIP even though there is rarely an opportunity to share and talk about these wonderful things and perceptions in a NA setting otherwise. So am glad that we did it here and now, Peggy. And believe me, that again, is no coincidence that this happened

Hi Peggy,

I will check out if I can get this movie here in my town or online... Amazing stuff about thoughts influencing the shape of water. I am always fascinated by stuff like that... I will surely check that out too...

You have a great day too, my friend...

Glad I have you in my recovery,

Hugs, Love, Light ~ Tahir.

Thanks

amazing!!! there is SO much out there that we don't understand yet. but if we keep an open mind the possibilities or limitless . thanks for sharing that bigv.... i'll try it myself once i think of a werthy enough prayer to have answered....

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are limitless.....there goes my bad typing again....lol...between my typing skills and my spelling , it's amazing you guys can understand anything i'm saying ..you're doing a great job thou...wink...ttyl. peg

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HUH Whudjoo say?

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amazing!!! there is SO much out there that we don't understand yet. but if we keep an open mind the possibilities or limitless . thanks for sharing that bigv.... i'll try it myself once i think of a werthy enough prayer to have answered....

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You may be going over to the dark side Whoooooooooo

Heres how I do it, I lay down at night get nice n cumfy, and say YO GOD you up there man? waiting silently for a few moments usually get some sort of reply, a sharp jab in my side, itch on my shoulder you know something that tells me he's here then I say my prayer

Wow, Congrats on 5 months clean and serene, Peggy. I can never forget how I felt at 5 months clean. The most impossible having become possible. It is those first few days and weeks and months that are the biggest milestones for me, not so much the years that accumulate later as they now seem to... And yes, any one of us is a member here at NA if we have paid the price of addiction, and have a desire to stop using... I have read somewhere in the literature that even an addict with one day clean has something to offer, and it is so true. I have drawn great hope and strength from many newcomers at times when I would be cribbing about getting a flat tyre or not having enough money to buy more cigarettes than a pack, and then I see this clean addict, in withdrawals, with no house to go back to, but still, sitting in a meeting room and staying clean inspite of it all, instead of being at his using yard and getting stoned... That sight, for me, is witnessing the biggest miracle of our Higher Power...

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Dear Peggy.

I checked out both 'the bleep' and EMOTO and I am amazed, inspired and my mind is never going to be the same after having received this information.

THANK YOU!

Lots of love from Solvejg

Dear Bigv,

Heres how I do it, I lay down at night get nice n cumfy, and say YO GOD you up there man? waiting silently for a few moments usually get some sort of reply, a sharp jab in my side, itch on my shoulder you know something that tells me he's here then I say my prayer

My attempt to fallow your advice din't go as smoothy as one would thing...

i got compy, i said yo god, then my brain would start wondering...daydreaming etc.

so i'd start over , yo god , you there, more daydreaming, i'd catch myself and try again.

every time i said yo a smile would form on my lips....lol..

so to stop the daydreaming i'd say yo god you there? yo god you there yet ,yo. being the  patient person that i am i'd call this out every 3 seconds....

when i thought i'd finally got his attention ..... i didn't know what to pray for ( how do you word your prays and what do you ask for, serious monent here)

so i figured when in doubt say the serenity prayer...but here  my mind started wondering too, back to the people, times and places of my using days.

god grant me the sernity to accept the thing i can not change ( flashback , f#*king asshole) oops !!! not good thinking like that in the middle of a prayer ..try again..the courage to change the things i can , ( YOU used me and i'm pissed a*#h#le) oops...start again...

lets just say it was the longest prayer i ever did say, every time a nagative thought would pop in i'd just bac with some part of the prayer . saying in and parts over and over again.. think i fell asleep saying them...

and i thought this would of been a slice of cake...i (we) can complicate the most simpitest of things...

hoping for better results tonight, practice makes perfect.....or at least improvement....

thanks for the tips....ttyl. peggy

welcome solveig glad you are here with us and keep coming back.


when i thought i'd finally got his attention ..... i didn't know what to pray for ( how do you word your prays and what do you ask for, serious monent here)

I first start off by saying thankyou for the day and ask for forgiveness of wrongs i've done, even past stuff that is on my mind. I then have some special prayers for others and then say the Lords Prayer. I do sometimes have brief talk with him and I always address my prayers thru Jesus Christ that is my way, thru Christ onto God .


I'm usually so tired too I pass out right afterwards, with a clear mind most of the time I try not to go to sleep angry at anything or anyone not always able to do that but most of the time.

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