I am new to NA I am formiliar with the 12 step program. I was in aa recovery 20 yrs ago but became a drinker of less to get buzzed. Now with my back injury and the stress I have in the house pain pills have beceom more convient and noone really knows the difference but me. There is no alcohol no one drinks but me and I dont get money to buy any wine so the pills where the next best thing to cope with my stress and pain. I need to know how the online programs work and where to find a sponsor. We have no meetings locally so I need to do this tonight or i wont do it at all. my husband knows what is going on but my in laws dont because they would basically sign the divorce papers for him as he had an ex girlfriend that was 10 times worse than me. but that was her addiction not mine. I just feel so alone and shelteredd. Thanks for any help.
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Thank You but i have two problems with that . One no gas money and two i cant let my in laws know what is going on that is why im doing the on line meetings. But if I could find a local sponsor i could try and do coffee two or three times a week that i can just say im going to meet a friend. but i have to wait I get my money in two weeks and then have to get my driverslicence again and hope my husband lets me use his truck. If not i have 6 months before i can get a car. So im like stuck kind of. Thanks for the help Candi
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Welcome. A couple of things stuck me about your post. You said you were in AA recovery then became a social drinker. In my experience, this does not happen. Once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic. If you are/were really an alcoholic, then if you started drinking again you would eventually have problems again. Since you now says you have problems with pills, this suggests that you are an addict. In my experience, if you are an addict and want to recover, going to meetings is essential. Online meetings are helpful but they are no a substitute for in person meetings. If you go to meetings, you will be able to find a sponsor there and begin working the other parts of the program (steps, service, fellowship, etc.). If there are no NA meetings locally AA meetings will work. You seem to be really concerned about not letting your in laws know about this. You are trying to hide your problem. Which is worse: your addiction or letting other people know you have a problem with drugs? If you really want to get clean, you will be willing to do what it takes, which includes going to meetings. Best wishes to you.
Hi Candi, my name is Raman and Im an addict.... clean and serene in NA just for today...
What im saying will sound very cliched and dull, but we have to place recovery as the top priority in our lives. We need to go to any lengths to get it and just let go of what stands in the way.
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Thank you Raman for your feedback. I do understand that I need to go to any lengths to get my sobriety. I am trying to grasp the little differences between aa and na. I was a recovering acoholic for 4yrs and just threw it away to and abusive realtionship. I now have come to a point in my life where for the first time i am discovering I am an adict and it makes me feel good i'll use it if its near. I replaced my alcohol with pills because i had the pain pills and not the acohol. I do however need to talk to my daughter. My husband doesnt want me to but I have to do it for me and she will help if she sees i need it. I tried to make the online meeting last night but couldnt get my server to work. Now i got into chat but no one talks to me im really confused on what i need to do. I did pick a user name momswings but when saying hi i get no response and that is unsual in a chat room. ANyhow. Thanks for the message and i totally agree with u but have got to be secretive to a degree because i cant afford to lose my marriage over my disease and stupidity. If you know of anything else to help or know of someone in the neilsville wi area that is willing to sponsor me let me know please. Thank again Candi
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I agree with you totally. However i can not risk my marriage because of my illness and stupidity. If they find out they will make my husband get a divorce because he went through this with his ex girlfriend before em. however from what he has told me she was much worse which doesnt matter and illness is an illness. However He will not stand up to his parents and tell them how it is. You are right i wasnt a social drinker i just got drunk quicker so i didnt drink as much. I never meant for it to sound like i was a social drinker because i know better than that. I want so badly to talk to his dad and my daughter about it they are the two out of the three that would understand and accept it. Right now ihave to order books and do on line because i dont have gas to travel 40min one way and 60min to travel the other meeting. I am going to call today to see if there is a meeting in town but that was the information i was give was marshfield and black river falls. So i want to thank you for the information and help but never meant to imply i was not an alcoholic or addict cause i didnt use much. I know i am both and need help with my pill problem right now. Thank Candi
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Maybe you already know this but seems like this ones the nearest;
LE Phillips Treatment Center 2661 County Highway I Chippewa Falls, WI 54729-5407 Google! Map Sunday 6:00 PM (18:00) Yes TOP Estimated Miles: 4.96
The other avenue for sharing with other addicts is; chat@1na.org.
copy/type this onto the address bar of your browser. The search engine will take you to www.1na.org, and then to the meeting room......
\Best of luck,,,,,, love of one addict for another......
(p.s; in the meanwhile, Im trying to get you the contact number of an NA member that may give you a drive to and drop back from an NA meeting thats a "safe distance away" !)
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Thank You Dave for your input. Yes I am an alcoholic as well as an addict. I have told my father in law about my problem and he is happy i am taking care of it. I am not trying to hide anything if i was i would stlll be using. I am not telling my mother in law because she is a very unhappy, judgemental lady who would throw me to the curb. My husband knows this also that is why he said dont discuse it with her. I plan on talking to my daughter tonight. She is 16 and not dumb she thought i was ill because of the lithium i take not pills for pain. I didnt mean i wasnt an alcoholic I just meant I wasnt drinking as much to catch a buzz so in my mind i didnt have a problem. I do know i have a problem with both alcohol and pills if i dont have one to use i will resort to the other. And i was getting very defensive when my mother in law told me i couldnt drink because i was on so many medications. I cant afford to travel 45 & 60 miles to the local meetings we have near me so I am reading all the lititure I can and attending on line meetings both aa and na I dont think either is any worse than the other I just think I need to atten as many meetings a day as possible an I am trying to find a local sponsor that i can meet with three times a week or more for coffee and discussion. Thanks for your feed back if you know of any sponsors in the neillsvile wil area please let me know thanks candi
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Thank you for your input. I however can not travel that distance due to the cost of gas and no employeement I would however be able to meet with an sponsor two til three times a week for coffee and discussion. I am doing aa and na meetings as many as possible a day. If you know of any sponsors in the neillsville wi area please let me know thanks again candi
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Thanks again for all your info. However im over 50miles from chippawae falls it is near eau clarie and im an hour from there. Im in Neillsville wi. I found out there is a aa meeting in town here on monday nights at 7pm at the calverly luthern church i will check it out next week. thanks for the info on the online meeting though. GOD Bless and keep you sober and safe. HUGS candi
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I am an addict named Mike.Do whatever it takes to get clean and keep your recovery first.It really does take more than just putting the substance down,thats the beginning but we work a daily process of recovery that keeps us from that next one.Alcohol is a drug,there really is no such thing for using just a little for an addict.If you went to program you know what we do to remain free,daily.I lift you up in prayer and support.Hopefully you will follow thru on the suggestions given here.WE can truly identify.There are pamphlets at NA.ORG that go over use of medications in recovery and IN TIMES OF ILLNESS. Check em out...
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It's good that you can see that you have used alcohol and pills addictively. I know your family/marriage situation is challenging. Some people don't understand that addiction is a disease and addicts need help like anyone else. Just think if you had to let people know you had diabetes or some other chronic physical illness--do you think there would be such repercussions? My earlier recommendations still stand. I hope you get up the courage and willingness to get to a meeting soon.
Thanks for the feedback. I have told my father in law which means he probably told my mother in law. I also told my daughter. I just know my husband does not want my mother in law knowing because shes going to blow it all our of proportion. I have told my mother who lives in fl which is hard but i have the phone. Shes also in recovery but not an active meeting goer. My uncle is also an active recovery and does meetings. but he lives 3hrs from me. I did find a meeting here in town its on monday nights at 7pm at a church but its aa. I am happy to be able to go to one meeting. nervouse again but happy. I have been trying really hard to get to the online na meeting but i keep falling asleep before hand. I usually go to bed at 7pm cause im up at 1-3am in the morning. Have a terrible sleep patern cause of my back injury. I can say today is three days i am clean and i will stay clean that i know of just for today. Its been hard because im withdrawling and keep reaching for them in the middle of the day when the pain starts. But i cant get a refill and dont know where they are so its all good. I started by only giving my trazadone to my husband and then yesterday found my codine and gave both bottles of those to him. I feel better untill the caose starts with my daughter or mother in law she likes to pick fights. I wished there was more support from my husband but I have to just let him do his thing i guess as his last girlfriend put him through hell with medications. I cant change what i am but i can make my future better for everyone. Anyhow thanks for the posting. I appreciate it a lot they always seem to come just when i need one. but when i dont get one i get on line with the web. Have a great Day :) thanks again Candi
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What do you mean by blow it out of proportion? Sounds like a bit of denial to me.
Addiction is a serious disease. You may not have suffered the consequences that some do (jail, homelessness, mental institutions, etc.) but very bad things like this can happen if you keep using.
It seems like addiction runs in your family too, which is not surprising.
I'm really sorry about your back pain. I've had back pain too but probably not as bad as yours. Exercise, massage, and hot baths have helped me with my back issues.
Thanks for the post. Im not in denial my mother in law takes everything over the top. She is a major bitch and my husband doesnt do anything to support me. So till we all sit down as a family and discusse this she wont know. The most imortant people in my life know. Addiction is a very serious disease and yes it runs in my family all but me are alcoholics im both. I have gone four days without a pill or drink im very proud of myself with the pain i live with many people could not do it. Others could. there has also been four days ive cried for the pain and frustration. I have tried hot baths and cold packs neither work on it is bone that is deteriorating not muscles or anything like that but thanks for the info. I know how addiction spirals out of control Ive done my prison time and lost my family and been through three abusive reltationsips. you name it i been there. Talk soon Candi
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Sorry to come in late to this thread but I have been travelling and not had the chance to check in as often as I like I hear your pain. I don't know what you should do, because I only know what worked for me. Simply stated, I went to meetings, listened, asked for help, and followed the suggestions that were given. Well, most of them anyway LOL.....it's easier to follow the suggestions of those whose recovery I admire. I was outstanding at putting obstacles between myself and my recovery but not so much these days. Those things I thought mattered so much, now seem pretty minor. Being clear headed and seeing things clearly as opposed to viewing the world through the lens of self centered fear has created miracles in my life. Namely that I can live most days happy, and free from the slavery of addiction. I wish you all health and happiness. Thanks for posting and please, keep coming back
Hye Man I am a sober AA member for 8 plus years and have not picked up booze for that time but during my 4th year in AA I develoed anixety meds addiction and for next 3 years life was hell.Inspite of AA ,AA meetings, AA steps and AA sponsor I ran away from home twice,lost 9 jobs,got bpxers fracture and became penniless.,I also tried willpower,Psycology,Religion,Counselling,Self help books,Miracle places ,schizophrenics anonymous,Dual recovery anonymous etc. By God's grace some 18 months back I found NA and that drug addiction has stopped.I kept going to AA meetings and I started NA meetings (not too much) but I was intouch with NA member daily for a year and I have been reading NA Basic Text since day one in NA.The first chapter from that book "who is an addict" answered all my questions and also The introductaory NA book and the Pamplet Am I an addict cleared my all doubts. I was confused but the AA pamplet" Problems other than alcohol" by Bill W helped me.He in that pamplet states clearly to AA members with legal or illegal drugs addiction to take help of NA. as said my drug addiction has stopped since 18 months and I was able to hold a job for over a year and tomorrow I am starting a new job. So please read NA Basic text esp the 6th edition.The recovery story from 6th edition of NA basic text FEARFUL MOTHER gave me cent percent identification.So all the best and welcome to NA and keep coming here and to NA. Hugs and love
Thanks for your story. I have been going to some NA meetings which helped tremdously. I havent found a sponsor because i cant get to a meeting that is close to home. I recently lost funding by the government for transportation to meetings so I now am dg my own meetings with myself at home, journaling, talking to my husband or daughter, and calling people i met in meetings. Yesterday was my two month mark and after having a spiritial awakening in a meeting three weeks ago my urge to use has been totaly lifted. I miss my meetings and even cry sometimes cause i cant go but I believe i can do this with my phone lists and the little bit of lititure and books i have. I read how it works. 12 traditions, three daily meditations and the third step prayer daily. I try to stay very busy with homework and computer time and think of something all the time so i dont get stinkin thinking. I just orderd the basic text used off amazon hoping it comes very soon. havent been able to find it online yet. or download a free copy to my kindle sucks. anyhow I was very addicted to pills this time around after 5yrs sobriety in aa 15 yrs ago. i have four deteriorating disk in the lower back and then on top of it injured my lower back lowering a pallet at work in 2010. To all avail all shots and procedures i have gone throw have not worked so i turned to the pills for my out. But if i have stinking thinking i will use alcohol or pills either does the same thing for me. So thanks for sharing. my email is moms_wings2@yahoo.com eamil me any time love to keep corisponding or my facebook is candice fanning gibson. Thanks candi
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