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Manon


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I know that one doc who I cannot spell for the life of me was inprisoned for such act.
But lets me look at the pros and cons like I do everything I do
it sounds like if someone is even thinking of this is prolly in a lot of pain or have just had ebnough as for me shit just keeps piling on one thing after another my pastor (not being religious) said the way things are happing in my life lately is the same as a rapid river flowing and the damn to make is not so overwhelming seems to be broke...
that makes since.
/My doc just keeps medicating me trying to get me to make it thru this alive and then once again I am scheduled for more trigger point injections don't wanna know how many this time
FAith of a mustard seed bull shit it started as an infant and it still continues
pastor remind me we are all human that its not my hp but why so much all at once once one blows over more shit hits the fan
suicide according to my faith is a tickect to the down under if you will...
now if a doctor did it for me would it still be suicide or would it be practicing knowing the pain that I go thru just trying to relieve the pain????
what are you r thoughts????

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Seek Gods will , guidance and direction Manon, pray for him to strengthen your body , see what happens, dont give up yet young lady.

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hI Manon! the subject matter is a highly debatable issue and I want to stay in the spiritual aspect of my response as you are aware NA is not about any religious program but it is  a spiritual way of life, but for me,my faith beliefs teach me that the God of my understanding is sovereign in the area of giving and taking of life and if there is suffering then we suffer for the plan of our HP and trust that His will be served.I want to be cautious here because our spiritual principles of the program tell us that we only need to put our faith and trust in a POWER GREATER THAN OURSELVES and that the guidelines are that power should be loving and caring.Each one of us will have to look at reasons why we would have to suffer and be in pain according to the concept we have of our Higher power.Talk about beating around the bush huh!I am concerned that you would entertain thoughts of "early out" but I constantly pray for your peace and serenity and I do feel confident that you are aware that your answers are in trusting your higher power and putting your faith in thoughts of life and not death.I do not ,for a moment,begin to think I know your pain and frustration but I do know that God wants you to have peace and joy in your life because this Power is love.Continue to strengthen your relationship with your God and I firmly believe"more will be revealed"The answer to your question,what are my thoughts? I say stick and stay we are all God's children and he'll call us when He is ready..pheww I felt like a lawyer sharing my feelings on this...peace :)   smile

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no loving god would keep thier child in pain and all the abuse even to my father pulling what he did I don't want that kinda god

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HI Manon,
I have no answers for you.
Only my deepest heart felt wish that you find a way to embrace life.

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If your mother gives you good things and you thank her, then you get beat up by a bully on the playground, can you blame your mother?

Ultimately, I guess you could blame God for all the bad things that happen, because he gave us free will. Most of the bad things that happen to us are the result of bad choices, either by us or by others. The family that is killed by a drunk driver is the victim of somebody elses poor choice, for instance. That doesnt mean that God caused it. Could he have prevented it? Perhaps, if he took that close a control of human affairs. In general, though, he gives us freedom, and doesnt interfere with that. Even when we make our own bad choices, he gives us freedom to sin, but hopes we will choose not to. When you balance free will against the inability to enjoy the good things (because you have no free will), most people would be thankful for the ability to choose.

 

 

( I found that threw a google search on " Blaming God" ) I think thats a good example of how god works in our lives. I wonder what the jews thought of there god when they were being slaughtered, did they stop loving him ? I think God wants people to stand up for themselves and even fight for there lives, we're not lambs to slaughter im sorry I dont believe that, this whole thing is a fight to stay alive and thrive.. Manon quit blaming God and take responsibilty and do the inventory work involved in seeing your part in your life, DISCOVER and DISCARD,  , the only thing i understand about God is that his will rather then mine is what is best for me and I will learn much from meditation and working this God given program and part with my self centered nature, that is the core of my spiritual sickness.



-- Edited by BigV on Sunday 14th of March 2010 11:05:45 AM

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Morning Manon! yes the principles of our program tell us our Hp is our own concept of what God is even if that is no God,it only need be loving and caring and greater than ourselves Personal faith beliefs and spiritual principles of NA may definitely be  different for all of us but that is for us to choose how it works for us...Atheists and Agnostics must come up with their own concept of what God is,some never do they just use any other concept that helps them move forward such as the group,Good Orderly  Direction etc..There is much evil and pain in the world just as their is goodness and joy,well have to determine for ourselves where each comes from.I also have no answers for you,only my thoughts on the question of what do I think about Euthanasia and thoughts of suicide.I will continually pray for your peace and tranquillity because that is how I talk with the God of my understanding. I too,wish for you to find a way to embrace life and that can be thru God or no God,just something loving and caring and greater than you.I am just another addict searching each day for my spiritual path and by no means have all the answers, I fall every day but continue to get back up...I only have faith and trust..Stay up,reach out and help someone else who may be suffering and feel the presence of a Higher Power as pain shared ,can be pain lessened .....peace for real!smile

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biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin Manon,You take care of your self.Speaking like that about yourself is not healthy thinking.You God of your understanding is not the one your father has,his one has a Red Face and Little Horns,the Devil,he will get whats coming some day.You are more important than that.I need your humor daily,I look forward to reading it. biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin

-- Edited by cdbuckberry on Sunday 14th of March 2010 12:52:11 PM

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Remember darling,
God helps those who help themselves !

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thanx all

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