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The Step Group.


On those days I was very eager to work the 4th Step. I had written a 4th of sorts when I was in a treatment centre.
Once on the outside, having experienced a clean life and loving it,I wanted more of what teh NA Program had to offer me.

When I read the Basic Text the implications rang true; either I reinforce my recovery by doing the 4th Step immediately or do it as the earliest. the reading also suggested I have no reservations in this regard.

So I searched for someone who had done the 4th. The Basic Text dosent say that one has to have a sponsor to do the 4th,so I just looked out for someone who did.

One AA member became willing to guide me and asked me to read literature first. I read tye Basic Text of NA and the 12 and 12 of AA. I was very lucky to be guided this way and spent about three months in the process of reading up.

The as circumstances would have it, my sponsor experienced few changes in his life that made it impractical to devote time on a 4th with me,so he suggested I keep looking, though he would still stay as sponsor.

I asked NA members from other cities in India and no one "qualified". I appreciate their honesty in saying they hadnt worked it themselves.

These were daysbefore any  Step guides were available and internet wasnt existent. All we had then by way of communication was snail mail that took 3 days inland and 7 days abroad. So if I had to work a non-face to face 4th Step Id have to wait 6 days in the case of inland and 14 days abroad to read responses. The only alternatives were travel and telephone which were too costly to even contemplate.

So through honest sharing of this problem of finding someone to gyuide me on the 4th, it became apparent and was suggested that I concentrate on service instead and when the time was right I would certainly write my 4th.

And that time did come in two years when I met my Step sponsor and his wife. They were wonderful people and had come all the way from New York to Bangalore( 20000miles ?)
just to work the 4th Step with willing people. They held a 4th Step workshop and then all of us who were impressed  and willing to do the 4th formed a Step Group. the primary purpose of this group was to do the 4th Step. Many joined and came for the weekly meetings and a sense of hope prevailed.

However as it was, many trailed off and we had but a few writing regularly. Basically what we shared in meetings is =
1.Did we keep our weekly commitment ?
2.If yes what problems or solutions did we discover ?
3.If not what stopped us and what we thought maybe a potential solution ?

Over the next few months we had two of us in Bangalore writing regularly and two in delhi too.  Later that became just me writing in Bangalore and one in Delhi. The group too folded up because of low attendance as well as life cycle. I wasnt left with much support.

Then the phenomena of internet began appearing in India and now I could directly mail and get responses from my Step sponsor. So I wrote and wrote and wrote.

We had no Step guides then so I followed a writing method suggested by my sponsor,
which isaw later on tallied with the format in the yellow coloured guide
" A guide to working Step 4 in NA".

Well friends,,this process was two years long, with lot of feed back and guidance from my sponsor.
I beleieve that nothing but a thorough writing like that could have lifted my obssessions and complusions and changed my life forever !!!!






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Well you hung in there and got it done and stayed clean all these years thats quite an accomplishment Raman, you had a strong desire and willingness something truly miraculous happened even before that 4th step.

I was thinking about what keeps me going, sometimes I have to question my attitude because even when things get rough the want to use isn't there.

I see myself as  another person I know who is recklessly going about life right now using she's an acoholic, I think we are very similiar in that nothing else REALLY MATTERS but to use, I had that attitude and asked myself today what ended that and I started making a list it wasn't just one thing but a multiple of things that were happening. The one that opened my eyes was the fact that I was literally dying and in light of that I found many other disturbing things going on with myself that made me soul sick.

So i was mentally sick, physically sick, spiritually sick, I was sick and tired of it all and where I was at in this life.

I had worked the 4th step several times in the past with sponsors hell I had a lot of help compared to you and never got real honest, finally I got honest and I think thats what took a big load off me , I kept having to use because of shame burden, my addiction fed off that shame and guilt ,the dishonesty and lies all that dorakness is gone not much left for addiction to hold on to AS LONG as I keep my house in order.

Thanks for sharing Raman

-- Edited by BigV at 16:08, 2009-02-26

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Youre welcome my long time friend Vin..
I know how your heart feels right now.
By God ,,isnt it devastating to see someone we love so much do that to themselves ??
Im praying for you two,,and especially for her to come to her senses,, and not lose a fine man like you forever !!
Gods will,,Goodwill be done here !!!
Lead Kindly Light,,,Light of Love,Understanding and Justice in Relationships !!!!

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I stil get obssessed at times.
Thank God not with drugs anymore but with people and objects and events.

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Sometimes getting perspective via the Steps is very difficult.
Heres a situation Im in.=
An assignment we did in the 1st semester entailed the following;
1.We work as a group
2.We present work as a group
3. We get equeal marks.

I was appointed as the group manager by group consensus.
This work I did dilligently,imcluding going to the staff meetings,informing group members of the goings on and giving them feedback on what we are doing and all such tasks that would take us towards the successful completion of the assignment and get good marks too.

Though I did well in this context, I did not realize the slyness that had crept into interactions with the tutor. I sensed she was being dodgy and evasive but let it go at that.
I wish I had because the results showed that inspite of us being equeally responsible for the output we were awarded different marks,which should not have happened.

So now this has to be taken up at the staff student meeting week after next and I am not going to be shy of asking why this discrepancy.

This going to be a test too !!


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Raman wrote:

Youre welcome my long time friend Vin..
I know how your heart feels right now.
By God ,,isnt it devastating to see someone we love so much do that to themselves ??
Im praying for you two,,and especially for her to come to her senses,, and not lose a fine man like you forever !!
Gods will,,Goodwill be done here !!!
Lead Kindly Light,,,Light of Love,Understanding and Justice in Relationships !!!!



OH NO not my girl Raman it's  a gal that I work with LOL my girl drinks maybe 2-3 times a year though I would rather she not at all she's pretty silly as she is normal HAH.

I have talked with this other person about the program she has TRIED AA but I think she hasn't hit her bottom and now she has a car which really makes me nervous knowing she is out there driving, she fell out of her car the other day I heard drunker then a sailor, hope she doesnt end up killing someone or herself.

 



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O my God Vin,,Im really going to have to use em glasses for reading what I bought but havent used..
Than God your womans a fine lady and all.
As for this one I say this prayer for her
" God Bless this addict,and bring her into recovery if it is Your will. Take away her difficulties so she may win another day,,knowing that a day clean is a day won,,no matter what.
And God let the hand of AA/NA always be there when she decides shes had nuff"

God Bless u for your efforts and concerns Vin...

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