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Am I the only one??


OK, so i've been clean since October 13th. Pretty happy about that but I still get the crazy crazy aches and pains. I was addicted/ probably still am to opiates...eh whatever it is, its not not the current issue.

am i the only one (which i'm sure i'm not i just need real advice) that has just the most incredible anger spells? I just flip out. I get lumps in my throats and I just want to scream. Then I start to cry and just feel like I'm going crazy or something because the strangest things are bothering me. Things that never have before...I'm not sure where it comes from, because I do have alot of stress in my life (college finals, eeek!). I'm just hurting so much. I dont know how to shake it or how to make it better. Any advice? Words of wisdom? Anything?

Thanks guys,


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If this consoles you Claire,,then let it be so !!
Be consoled by the thought that addiction and withdrawl distort rational thought,,,
and none of us is fully recovered from things like anger,fear,resentments !!
Hate will be available in many forms,, all of us are liabe to be trapped by the temptation of the thought
"ill scold him/her and then cool off"
its difficult because anger has its own agenda and cant really be controlled once indulged in !!
So next time we get angry its all about stopping at that rather than let things go too far !!
Just for today we never have to be angry and have our life become unmanageable all over again !!
So help us FORCETHATKEEPSUSCLEANANDSERENE!!!
(thats the God as I understand)

-- Edited by Raman at 05:02, 2007-11-29

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Claire, I love you for sharing that. I was so overcome by attacks of anger and rage early in my recovery that sometimes I could hardly contain myself. In fact, I defined myself by my anger. I was anger personified.

I know now that I had several things going on:

1. Some of my anger was the processing of the many injustices I had encountered throughout my life and had covered up with using.

2. I was furious about being an addict and having to give up my truest of true loves: my drug of choice.

3. I completely and totally couldn't stand myself or pretty much anyone else.

4. I came to rely on my anger as protection. I discovered in my Third Step that I was terrified of turning my will, my life, or anything else over to anyone or anything. I was afraid if I did, I would turn into some kind of nice person - a pushover, a doormat. I would be abused and taken advantage of. My anger protected me from all that.


Over time and with patience, I found the courage to take some risks with Step Three and I turned some stuff over. In doing so, I discovered that turning over my life and my will didn't make me a helpless wimp.

Over time, with patience, and through ongoing step work, I was able to process those injustices, I came to love and accept myself and others, and I finally was able to see that my true love was going to kill me. I guess part of that, too, is that I finally got a life that I liked better than using.

Although I am not completely anger-free today, I have made great improvements in this area.

Big hugs to you, Claire.

-- Edited by Blithe Spirit at 20:35, 2007-11-29

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What a great reply Blithe. Claire, you are definately not alone with the anger bursts. I still get so angry, I can't think. I did it tonight in an airport. I feel really stupid and have wasted a few hours of time thinking about how foolish I was and how other people must feel after my anger burst. Thank you for sharing that, it will help me to be more contious of my own out bursts. I love this program, get something good from you all every day.

kenh

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I had some terrible anger when I first got clean, yelling and screaming!! oh my at my mother even and I never EVER did that, even when using!

But when I stopped, something happened. Blithe, you said it all so well. Feelings are so extreme in early recovery but with time, it does go away. I prayed a lot that I wouldn't hurt others but it seemed it was only time and god that truly fixed it; in god's time, not my time.

My prayers are with you....Hang in there :) Don't pick up, no matter what!!!

-- Edited by NA_ROCKS at 10:38, 2007-11-29

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Thank you all with your wonderful support and advice. I certainly don't feel so alone. Last night i snapped at my boyfriend and I am know relizing just how stupid it sounded. Over something so little. Hes been really busy with school work and we havent seen eachother alot, which is rare because we saw each other constantly. I wore my old ugg boots that are practicly attached to my feet and he has slippers that looks like uggs. He said "Oh heyyy nice uggs you like mine?" which he says alot. I dont know what happend to me. I just lost it. I screamed " jesus chris those arent fucking ugg boots. GOD!! you always fucking say that and they're not"

no clue what came over me. i think i'm actually going to make it to a meeting sunday night, even thought i'll only be up here at my university until the 15th maybe i can make some friends to keep me going over the long winter break.


thank you all again. this message board system has done ALOT for me. I love you all.

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No girl you are defenitly not alone. And I'm still so sick that I DON"T cringe at the things I've said and say to people and I'm just over six months... for instance...

My mother said something to me the other day about how "Thank God this family survived your drinking..." and me always with the smart comeback and the rage that's always just beneath the surface; was like; "Mmm, like the way I survived your bloody menopause..." And you've got to understand that this is a woman who has scraped me up from the floor time and time again, and put me back together again. She doesn't deserve anything but kudos from Me. I live in a state between anger and bliss and despair and gratitude and anger and being just okay. Be prepared for extreme mood swings all the time. Because while we know that what's best for us is to stay clean it doesn't mean that we don't miss our substances at that HIGH, Oh that HIGH.... What is going to replace that feeling?

Lord, thank God I found you people, you don't know how you all have made this week, which has been like hell for me. Bearable. Liveable. Blessed Be.

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ummmmm,,,
a simple formula that works each time I do it (though sometimes I dont know why I dont)
I admit I am powerless over anger,, my life has become unmanageable !!
I have to stop justifying its "necessity" in order to be restored to serenity
God show me how to express myself in an assertive manner,,, rather than agressive or passive,, anger laden approaches,,
hopefully then I will not only be free of the grouch and the brainstorm but also have others treat me right , or reciprocate the love,attention and respect i get everday of my life !!


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It's just occured to me Claire that maybe my answer wasn't particularly helpful to you.

A tool I've found that is helpful to me in terms of letting go of anger is writing stuff down. Otherwise I let others rent space in my head unessecessarily. Once it's all down on paper; for some reason, I find the venom has transfered itself and I feel a lot better. Sometimes I have to do it more than once. But generally it works. maybe it will for you too...

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yes and thats never failed to work for me too Chezda,,
in fact I just finished some writing now !!!
and am already feeling better !!

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I also used anger a lot as a newcomer in NA, still do at times smile.gif After my last relapse, I picked up a Sponsor and started working the Steps. When I thus based my recovery through making regular meetings, talking with my Sponsor and trying to work the Steps in those situations instead of acting out in my old ways, I experienced progress.

Anger, for me, is a natural ingredient of a human being. I have come to know that me being an addict tend to abuse the emotion of anger that makes my life unmanageable. What is a normal human trait becomes a defect of character for an addict like me smile.gif

My first Sponsor told me once that one feels anger because anger shows up for a very important reason, that it's telling us something that we need to pick up, and only the process of the Steps reveals to me why I'm not able to deal with my anger in a constructive way, why do I try to deny myself that I'm angry, why I tend to fall into my addictive tendency of telling myself that I must not get angry, that anger is a 'bad' thing, I'm supposed to suppress my anger etc. I realized while working my 4th and 5th, and when I was introduced to the basics of Step Six by my first Sponsor that I can learn to deal with my anger, become willing to my Higher Power's help in transforming it only after I acknowledge the fact that I'm angry, that there's nothing wrong with feeling angry, that what goes wrong is only when I act out in my addictive ways to this anger that I feel. I have to own my anger first to be able to do anything with it, that I cannot change what I deny or don't own up.

Also, I have come to know that suppressing my anger is the most destructive of all, more than acting out sometimes smile.gif

When I make regular meetings, pray and meditate on the JFT of the day everyday, base my day in the principles of the Steps, stay connected to other members on a daily basis etc, I've found that anger doesn't hold that much of a power over me. And when I'm disconnected with these basics of the program, anger wreaks havoc in my recovery. When I do the basics right, my emotions more or less settle down in their proper perspectives, there's less chance of exaggeration or blowing them out of proportion.

The defects show up for a reason, they are there still for a reason. For me, it's my Higher Power telling me "Here's a great gift that I have for you beneath this defect of yours, open your mind, learn and grow" when I end up acting out everytime. Growth is where my defects are. That's a paradox that only the Steps can reveal to me smile.gif

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