This is exactly what i'm trying to get out of. I've been lonely and isolated for about a week now. my sponsor says that I'm not opening up to enough new people that and i'm not calling up or seeing the people who's numbers i've collected from NA. I am neither using or expanding my network of NA friends/aquaintences. It's all about the people in the fellowship. I know that if I call up anybody, things would be diffirent. Why I don't do it, well, thats my disease acting up on me. I feel like shit..I will try to do what i've just said today.....I dunno if i'll do it though.....
Hi,,, well NA also stands for Never Alone !!! Ive chosen not to live alone,, my 11 year old daughter,my aged mother and I share my house !!! Ive got lots of net friends and fellow NA recoverers I can connect !!and I do,,,,, here the local Fellowship has a meeting a day and sometimes two so thers lots of addict5s to meet there !!1 I belong in a few social clubs where i use the health centre and billiards /snooker so i have people there too.. walking by the lake,,, theres lots of people to look at, smile at and walk with !! in my music circle im always surrounded by people,,, however whenever when me and my girlfriend want to make out we go someplace secluded and lose ourselves,, so we got each other only for company there !!! Most importantly,,, whenever im by myself i use that to go intoMystical space and look again at the Na Prayers ,, practice my music,, write things down and think things thru,,, in short Meditate !! Finally i conclude that one also has to be aware that in order to be in company we need not compromise on Spiritual Principles,,,,, it says clearly in the text= "OUR PEOPLE PLEASING NATURE CARRIED US DEEPER INTO OUR ADDICTION" as as yall know addiction involves much more than just drug use,,,its the attitude,,,, so here NA meansNew Attitudes !!! In my case i learnt it was ok to be by oneself and l;ook at and be with oneself and in HARMONY with Nature and all the World !!!! God bless yu in your recovery !!!
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Raman an addict clean and serene just for today in NA Worldwide ; live to love and love to live the NA Way !!!
Ha, ha well ummm i humbly present Ramans Formula for having more people in ones life that matter in recovery !!! 1.Stop judging and critisising and condemning people even though they may be"defective" according to us,,,, by accepting those that are here to stay in our lives,,,we may find that they actually have something very positive to contribute to our recovery ! 2.In a relationship,, give rather than take ,,, which means give Goodness and love rather than expect and wait for it to come !!!I have many satisfactory relationships,where due to honest dialogue,, we have strong bonds, that do withstand unexpected downs that come upon us sometimes. 3.Recognize pain and anger are the sure signs of an addictive relationship/friendship,,,,either i need to look at it form a different viewpoint in order to feel good about it or just let it go !!! sometimes no matter how hard we try, a particular relationship may not be what is good for our recovery and we need to let it all go with love and understanding !! My Friends on this Forum and Fellow recoverers,, i have tried my best to suggest only what has worked for me,,, and have not at any point given advice of something ive not experienced in my recovery !!!
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Raman an addict clean and serene just for today in NA Worldwide ; live to love and love to live the NA Way !!!
All good stuff there Raman I like it, some great ideas there .
I go to the gym its not just to work out its a social thing too, I have made several not many friends there and have a few who I just shake hands with and say hi, we've spoken but it's on a different level then friendship.
Heck I went to the movies to see "300" with a friend the other day he's not in the program just someone I met when I was taking college course years back , we still keep in touch.
I have my cats, 5 of them I can't get lonely with all of them around, sometimes i round them all up and get them in the room together and play with them all or just mess with a one or two .
But theres nothing like having a special someone to be with I just lost another one due to my unmanageabilitys and it sucks, spent alot of weekend with her, but even that got to be a pain traveling, gas, not enough time, then other things came up like Raman mentioned ties needed to be cut and I have to fight not trying to fix whats broken, mostly because I want the companionship,, Eh HEM...........
My thing with people is that and I think i've always isolated and kept to myself or had a very small circle of friends is that i have such a problem with intolerance and i've had to adjust that because for the last few years i;ve been unhappy and going off alot on a few friends I had/have. I have joined several clubs recently , gold propsecting and have made some new friends and still have many others to meet like this weekend I will be going on a gathering with one of my gold propsecting clubs, friday and saturday then sunday may meet with another guy to dredge with so get some hobbies you will definetly meet people and not be so lonely.
hiya Brett I understand feeling lonely I am that way often but we do have the choice to change that today granted we may not have a mate to cuddle with or we might come home to an empty house but that is why we make friends in the program so that when we feel lonely we have someone to call that way we can catch a movie eat some dinner and share a meeting. I do know it is not the same as having someone to come home tro to kiss goodnight as well as good morning i suppose those things come in time. I don't know when sometimes I wish i did but i don' but I know I don't ever have to be alone now like I stated earlier it is different that feeling lonely it is the way or perception on things are that can change lonely to alone. I have to remind my self that this is a feelings disease and some times they just hit me harder that normal. Love in recovery Manon aka Rayne
Nope, I just decided today I'm gonna grow up to be the lonely old codger in the back of a meeting that pisses everyone off and can only say keep coming back...its my destiny How's That for a sense of purpose?
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Oh sorry i forgot,,, i got my boy Tiger(2 year old labarador) and my girl Jolly(17 yeard old Pomeranien)
and was a time in recover,after i stopped smoking,, i learnt and did clock and watch repairs !!! Oh man,,, recovery got more good things waiting,,, than the mind can ever imagine !!! lately ive also been driving these thousands of miles with newcomers to conventions,,,,,, and as always taking newcomers out to dinner has been a high point !!! all in all,,, i love to live and live to love the NA WAY !!! Attaboy me !!!! he, he he !!!!
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Raman an addict clean and serene just for today in NA Worldwide ; live to love and love to live the NA Way !!!
Just read this wonderful reflection from our JFT Book about loneliness and being alone... (while using I couldn't wait till the next morning to use the drugs that I had with me, the same pattern follows now. I can't wait till it's morning to read what's tomorrow's JFT says
May 30Loneliness vs. Being Alone"Sharing with others keeps us from feeling isolated and alone."Basic Text, p. 81There is a difference between being alone and being lonely. Being lonely is a state of the heart, an emptiness that makes us feel sad and sometimes hopeless. Loneliness is not always alleviated when we enter into relationships or surround ourselves with others. Some of us are lonely even in a room full of people.Many of us came to Narcotics Anonymous out of the desperate loneliness of our addiction. After coming to meetings, we begin to make new friends, and often our feelings of loneliness ease. But many of us must contend with loneliness throughout our recovery.What is the cure for loneliness? The best cure is to begin a relationship with a Higher Power that can help fill the emptiness of our heart. We find that when we have a belief in a Higher Power, we never have to feel lonely. We can be alone more comfortably when we have a conscious contact with a God of our understanding.We often find deep fulfillment in our interactions with others as we progress in our recovery. Yet we also find that, the closer we draw to our Higher Power, the less we need to surround ourselves with others. We begin to find a spirit within us that is our constant companion as we continue to explore and deepen our connection with a Power greater than ourselves. We realize we are spiritually connected with something bigger than we are.Just for today: I will take comfort in my conscious contact with a Higher Power. I am never alone.pg. 156
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"If we do an honest examination of exactly what we are giving, we are better able to evaluate the results we are getting."Chapter 10 - Emotional Pain - NA Way of Life.
That's great Raman. I also dream of doing that one day... Hope you have a wonderful experience...
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"If we do an honest examination of exactly what we are giving, we are better able to evaluate the results we are getting."Chapter 10 - Emotional Pain - NA Way of Life.
Hi Vini,,,, man im going to take a YATRA,,,,(pilgrimage) of NA in USA and meet up with you all in the near future !!!
Raman I will take you to big NA freak show in San Francisco LMAO you will love that most I think
Then we will go to Yosemite , when we pull up into the park you will gasp from the heights of granite mountains, then I will take you to find gold in the rivers and do some fishing and maybe go up to the Indian casino and see a famous live entertainers, heres the recent schedule