Hi all. I don't really know where to begin. I entered detox and then moved into rehab on 9/22/10. I left rehab, relapsed with alcohol and psychedelics....stayed clean for 3 weeks. I relapsed again with suboxone and alcohol on 11/5....celebrated 30 days clean and relapsed again last Monday, 12/5. So here I am. I have been going to AA meetings and working on recovery but obviously I think I need NA more than AA because drugs have always been the primary issue with me....especially opiates.
I had a nasty Oxy addiction a four years back and kicked it but the past 2 years I've been getting my hands on any kind of opiate I can. I snorted heroin shortly before I entered detox.
I keep fucking up. I have a sponsor in AA and I started feeling good but then fucked it up. I KNOW I need to be in NA but was for whatever reason, leary about NA. I have been afraid that it would be a trigger for me so I went to AA. I now know I need NA. I am powerless over drugs.....and alcohol but much, much more powerless over drugs. I have lost a career, my home, filed bankruptcy, lost my health (better now), lost relationships, etc. as a result of my drug use.....opiates have always been the drug of choice and then psychedelics, coke, etc....God, I hope I'm not triggering anyone. I'm scared. I don't know if I have another "go around" in me. I'm feeling pretty helpless right now and I'm feeling that fighting this grip that drugs has on me is a losing battle. I hope I'm making sense....
You are making perfect sense. I'm glad you've reached this level of honesty. Maybe you are ready to finally surrender and do what it takes to stay clean. Everyone has to reach a point with their drug addiction where they finally say--"enough!" I used drugs and alcohol but I go to NA meetings because my problem is addiction, not just to drugs and alcohol but to many things. Basically, I'll do whatever it takes to make me feel high. And I did this every day, all day, for a long time. I hope you can get to some NA meetings soon. Thanks for sharing your story.
thanks for your reply....i'm just kicking myself right now..you know? i had 30 days!!! a lot for me....i was feeling good again...and then 1 day after i get my 30 day chip, i sabotage myself. it's a strong message as to how strong this addiction is....i AM powerless...i'm going to find an NA meeting today....i called my sponsor on saturday and told her what i had done...she is loving and supportive...but i do believe i need a sponsor who can relate to my drug addiction as well as alcohol. there are so many more AA meetings around here then there are NA....i wanted to go to one today but can only find an evening one that is close by so i guess i'll go to that......as i said before i entered detox on 9/22....i then moved to the rehab facility...i left AMA on october 7th because i had 6th row center floor seats to Roger Waters' touring "The Wall" on october 10th....it was also my 21st wedding anniversary....well, the show was fu_king awesome but it wasn't worth the ensuing BS i went through ....AND to make matters worse, i came home to a boat-load of personal stuff....marital and otherwise.
Hi Deb and welcome. Glad you found us. Yes, NA is definitely a place for you. In NA we consider alcohol a drug. It's just that simple, and ours is a program of complete abstinence from all drugs. The roller coaster of using, quitting, relapsing and back again is very familiar to many in NA. Here is a suggestion. Stop beating yourself up. Self loathing and abuse is just another symptom of the disease of addiction. Get to meetings, get phone numbers, CALL THEM. and dedicate yourself the program. There are many thousands of addicts who were hopelessly addicted with no way out, who found NA and have discovered a new way of life. Please keep us posted on how your doing.
Cool Deb and welcome 1000 times you're welcome. I relapsed so many times in 10 years... all that's in the past. Step work and coming back put it where it belonged, along with the names and types of narcotics I used, in the past. The truth is didn't like the way I felt when I used them as much as they helped me tolerate life for a period of time.
At some point they began to make life worse. I became an oldtimer at in NA and I have lost any desire to use. If I ever pick it back up, I'm pretty certain the obsession and compulsion would return for drugs.
Thanks for coming and posting. Please for the sake of all of us that need you, stay until you stay for your own sake.
No matter what, don't use this minute. They'll fall into place sooner than you think.
hi, deb. i recently stumbled in my recovery as well. my relapse carried with it some pretty heavy consequences, some of which are still looming on the horizon. i found that beating myself up about it was NOT what i needed to be doing, as avid said. what we did is past, we need to focus on what we are GOING TO DO TODAY to recover, and i can't add anything better than what has been said by Dave, avid, and Joe. I can tell you that my area is similar to yours (and MANY others) in that AA meetings are far more frequent and accessible than NA meetings. I am lucky that we have one NA group that recently started in the small town near where i live, but i have gone on lengthy road trips to get to other meetings. i was told that i had to be willing to put forth as much effort to get my recovery as i had to get my drugs, and for me that turns out to be a LOT. I have also found that there are quite a few AA members who have had experience with drug addiction, and so your experience may not be all that foreign in an AA meeting. I've found that as long as i keep an open mind and open ears i'll hear something useful to my own recovery. hope that helps... Keep your head up! bill
thanks all! you know i do have phone numbers but the phone is sooooo damned heavy you know? as someone who stopped talking and began isolating years ago, i find it very hard to reach out when i'm in a bad way....the 30 days i had clean were good...yes they were. i was picking up the phone and actually calling people myself instead of simply answering their calls to me. i don't know what happened. i guess i hit that 30 days and something inside of me clicked...'i don't feel good so maybe a few percs won't hurt....after all, i'm clean and plan on staying clean'.....f'd up logic, eh? i stopped going to meetings, prayer and started to spiral down once again....bottomline is i want that 30 days' feeling back. my life was coming together again....even got some calls from headhunters last week....what's worse is that at the last minute, i called and cancelled an interview at a prestigous law firm because i was too nervous and unsure of myself......i was a legal assistant in D.C. firms for 19 years...my passion is photography and writing but somehow it's reallllll hard to make a living (surprise, surprise!)...i always said i would never return to law, but at this point, having been unemployed for 6 months, i really have no choice AND i cannot go back into that 'shark tank' without some good, clean recovery time.....otherwise, i'll end up where i once was....and i hated that f-ing place....
Hey Deb. Slow down girl. Breathe. now breathe again. Whoa..................................LOL.
It's times like this where all of those 'bumper sticker' slogans you see on the walls at meetings really apply. "Easy does it" "One day at a time" "First things first" "give yourself a break" and so on.
I think right now you need to focus on your recovery. Things will look clearer when you put a little clean time in the bank.
Oh, and if you haven't already, get a sponsor. A good sponsor, one who has works a good program, has worked the steps, and has that look of peace in her eyes, can be a life saver.
Fact is Deb, if you want to get high, your gonna get high, your not bullshitting any of us, we know, we have all been through it. Its plain and simple, get to meetings daily, make all your associations with peps in the program, get a sponsor and work the steps. If you dont do this , you will continue to get high and die, or go to jail and wish you where dead. Im telling you I love you, just the way you are ,no matter what you have done , we all love you and need you here with us. Im a stone cold drug addict who hasnt used in 23 years, and I only stay clean by giving the secret of how to live, away to the next person who wants to get clean.
Deb, I've been to a few AA meetings where people have introduced themselves as alcoholic and addict... just because our primary use was drugs, doesn't mean that they didn't also dabble in drugs. We go to these meetings because regardless of our drug of choice (and alcohol is a drug), we are all addicts. We all have that in common.
I just went through a recent relapse myself, and these guys are right... Stop beating yourself up over yesterday, and stop worrying about tomorrow. Stay clean TODAY. Just for TODAY. Just for this HOUR, this MINUTE... praying for you...
Deb, I've been to a few AA meetings where people have introduced themselves as alcoholic and addict...
exactly! they did not want me to introduce myself as BOTH but i AM both......
i'm getting back on track today.....feeling less ashamed, praying and went to a meeting yesterday.....going to an NA meeting today
... Stop beating yourself up over yesterday, and stop worrying about tomorrow. Stay clean TODAY. Just for TODAY. Just for this HOUR, this MINUTE... this is the hardest thing for me.....i am one of those constant 'future thinkers and worriers'....never being presented but anxiously worrying about tomorrow
I'm a future thinker too... it takes practice to live day to day... and I still struggle... Just try maybe only focusing on your sobriety one day at a time? I get it though... good luck, hun.
My name is Mike, I'm an Addict. I'm not an Alcoholic and hence find my Recovery in Narcotics Anonymous. Alcohol is simply another drug (as our literature states). I am grateful to AA for showing the way for NA to Become. But AA does not replace NA for an addict.
Our program is Simple, if you work it. Our promise is NA can offer you a choice, never having to use again One Day At a Time. That burning never ending desire to use CAN be lifted from you if you are willing and let it. Start by going to 90 NA meetings in 90 days. No excuses. Listen. If you don't feel like going to a meeting, go anyway. If you feel like using, use a meeting and use the phone instead. The power of one addict helping another is without parallel.
I remember vividly when Higher Power lifted that never ending burning desire to use from me. I'd been around about 6 months and had gone back out on my Organic Lie. You know, just smoking Mother Nature and drinking (good for cotton mouth) but not slamming H or using any other "hard" drugs. Had a job etc. (always loaded) but one night after a league pool shoot and celebrating knew I wouldn't make it to work the next day with just Herb, so scored a rack of speed. Next morning got up and my Organic Lie was about to be shattered. I DID NOT want to use the speed but couldn't go to work just toking. Instead drove around all morning until a Noon NA meeting I knew about. The speed was in my pocket. I smoked another joint just before going into the meeting but I went anyway. I don't give a rip if you're Clean or Loaded GO TO A MEETING! The only requirement for NA membership is a DESIRE to stop using. After that meeting drove around all afternoon until an evening NA meeting. Staying high all afternoon on Mother Nature. Threw away the speed at some point during the day and again toked up before walking into that meeting too. I did know enough to keep my mouth shut, just listened. This went on for three weeks, loaded on Mother Nature everyday but not doing hard drugs, going to 1 to 3 meetings a day, some AA when no NA meeting within 50 miles. Loaded at every meeing. I felt hopeless and ashamed but went anyway. I KNEW I couldn't stop using on my own. I was still contstantly using and feeling worthless but went anyway.
Then the Miracle happened. Was sitting in the Sunday night NA meeting loaded on Herb when HP spoke to me in a still small voice in my mind. "Quit fooling around with pot. If you want to get your head on your chest go get some China White like you really want. But you don't have to, you have a choice today."
After that meeting I was able to throw away my Mother Nature stash by the Grace of God and haven't used since. Over thirty years later I'm typing this Clean One Day At a Time. Miracles Do Happen.
Yeah lost that job but no biggy. I finally got Clean.
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Work the Steps or Die MF. (My Friend :) Clean One Day At a Time by The Grace of God through The Power of NA