Our primary purpose is carry the message to the addict...it feels stale that it's the lack of new members that's boring me. I'm getting tired of the same boring stuff coming out of my mouth. Somebody revive me!! Anyone with less than a year of sobriety, I'd like to hear what you feel from fresh eyes. I need to give away myself in order to feel at the height of my sobriety!! I've seen the 16 step program where it says we carry the message to ourselves....I guess I just need a good kick in the pants. Take aim, please!! I'm starting to agree with an AA critic that this is NOT a selfish program, it's a self-less program...anyone looking for a hug???
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I think people are full of guile.....I enjoy that.
Hey Nikki! I can always use a hug!I am sure you are well aware of this but one of my favorite reminders tells me "that complacency is the enemy of those with substantial clean time(23+ yrs I see from your bio))If we remain complacent for long recovery then ceases. Also it tells me"life may again become meaningless,monotonous and boring!,you know the rest,but it also tells us "that this may be periods of our greatest growth.Can you travel to different areas?take a new committment(GSR/H&I,Chair a committee?) Sometimes we just get tired and got to get out of our comort zone to feel that spark again!Nice talking with you.Also I remind myself always "that a simple honest message of recovery from addiction always rings true no matter who is hearing it!!peace...
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"we tried to caryy this message to the addict that still suffers",, and who says that it is only the newcomer or the addict with less than a yer clean who is suffering ?
For Gods sake, if anyone knows how I can legally and truthfully get out of this credit card suffering,, Id be real greatful. Especially two cards, Ive been paying instalments for nearly two years and the balance dosent seem to be reducing !! Why,, one card wont even let me logonto see my statements and Ive been paying blindly to avoid the phone call harassment,,
Im seriously thinking of stopping payment and going to court to clear things.
The only consideration is that it should be done the NA Way,, leaving me feel clean and serene !!
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Raman an addict clean and serene just for today in NA Worldwide ; live to love and love to live the NA Way !!!
I had to go bankrupt shortly after my crash and burn in 1995. It wiped out all my debts and gave me a fresh start. It didn't take as long as I feared to restore my credit, and now I am bombarded with credit offers on an almost daily basis. I don't know what the NA way is regarding credit cards, but getting legal advice is always your right.
Hey Raman! Yes we had to do same thing about 15 years ago,bankruptcy.We were having a hard time as it was as much a moral issue for us as it was a debt issue.We found a consolidation company where they call your creditors and see if they can work something out and reduce your payments and stop all the calls etc.After 3 weeks the guy told us we were buried too deep.We had 2 options,be buried for the rest of our lives or claim chapter 7 (kept our mortgage etc) and pay offf start fresh.After much prayer we claimed,cost us a $1000.00 ,this was also around 1995.Can you believe 15 years later we are buried again!!! it is the reason we are selling our home.We want to pay all of our debt off,maybe bank a little ,start fresh and maybe even move south.We just aren't good with cards although we don't live extravagantly.I drive a 90 toyota and we have a good 2001 nissan in case we have to take a trip.No excuse but kids,car repairs,life etc,just keep us always maxed out.I have a decent job,but its in human services and salaries arent that great(but I love my work) so sometimes there is a compromise.My wife also works in the field.We will not do bankruptcy again and i am taking a course at my church on financial management,but those courses you really have to start at beginning and not go in buried.I know if i can't afford it I shouldnt buy it,but its not always that clear,but thats what i will work on.Raman I would also suggest seeing a consultant,professional etc.Living buried is a real drain on your spirit ,I dont have to tell you that.You know we came in with nothing and we are going out with nothing so what happens in between is all God;s plan,but it includes work from our end also.I'll pray you find an answer to work yourself out.We are blessed as we have a home that can help clean our debt and then start again and now Social Security not a fortune but worst case i'll be able to continue some kind of support until i take the dirt nap!peace my friend ,search it out,you'll be glad you did.......
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I read the responses and just as You knowing how I felt In the height of my addiction helps to heal me, it also helps me to see that I am not alone in this financial misery. Wow, we are 43 and 48 and we have everything we own in a Pod in different state!
We have both had our own homes in our past marriages, we have had all the things we dream of as teenagers talking about "when I get married Im going to have..." Then life hits us,my disease stole my Joy, and realiy set in.
Rehab, losing our possessions, and having the ex take them....but then comes the other side of this coin......A loving relationship with God, meeting a man who really loves me for me, and a chance to live life !!We do not even have our own apartment anymore , but we have remained strong and true to our beliefs. I believe that God will provide.I believe If I do the next right thing he will show me how to steadily climb out of this. :) I understand the morality of it , as my husband has a much harder time with just filing than I do because even with 2 sep child supp payments hes always paid his bills....but at our age , if we want to live- we will need to begin again. Find out information about dif ways to go(bankruptcy, consolodation etc..and then figure out which you can live with and please dont worry about those phone calls...they will eventually quit lmao (im just kidding!) its something we cant control if we are truly in debt and cant pay..pray for guidance and do the work llike Mike said and then head that direction. Good luck to you Raman.
Thanks Carol, Mike and Don. Your suffering will not be in vain as at least this addict wil have got some learning from it.
Thut,, what a bad scene this has become. Im deciding that I will take legal help. The joy of working, the thrill of doing a good show and the satisfaction in doing a good job is all gone. The monster is ever present, like in a shadow, waiting for me to get cash and then and then tell me "Ok bud,, Il take of that now, just hand it over nice and peaceful".
Godamn this consumerist-credit-crooks nexus.
For Gods sake, I had an insight few years ago whyen I was watching ads between TV shows and thought " My Goodness, this is meant to make me feel like if I dont have that, then Im not good nuff". For a time I checked impulsive thinking and compulsive thinking, but Ive been back at it. Then I stopped again but the damage was done and Im still looking at 6 grand needing to be repaid and that balance never seems to reduce. I spose it all relates back to my self-esteem issue and shopping to fix feelings........ Im lucky that there's the Second Step,,,, And that great lawyer who is also a family friend, Il need all the best advice he can give me. He has seen me thru a close on in the past(divorce) and Im hoping he'd do the same for me again.
And in the meanwhile Im thinking "This too shall pass"
-- Edited by Raman on Monday 3rd of May 2010 02:08:23 PM
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