good choice man i went thru it in 2000 and it made a difference of sorts i still use the tools i got from them to diffuse myself when i get on a jag and want to kick someons tush good luck and god speed

Hey BigV, mike f here..
Be thinking of you vinny.At least in recovery we can make someVALID 'decisions"to be able to continue to get help we need ,in all areas.Most of us 'SICK' BEFORE WE EVER PICKED UP.Let us know how it goes after you first session.I wasnt sure about your original post about 'losing' someone.(death,divorce,fight etc.)thanks for letting us know the 'exact nature' of things goin on..peace

good for you vini, i should probably get some too but im glad that you are finally dealing with the anger problems. let us know how it goes!

Vini, a member used to tell me that Anger has its rightful place in our lives. That we get angry for a reason. That Anger by turning up in our emotional landscape has something important to tell us, to reveal to us about ourselves... that it gives us something to work on... she called it positive channeling of anger if I remember right...

Great shares guys thanks I did have saved the pamphlet triangle of obsession and see how well I fit that whole scenario. The last part where it says we must grow up or die i'd add die miserably LOL alone and angry at the world thats not how i want to go I had an example of a person who lived near me for years here and saw how alone he was I would sit in my office here and watch him go to the mail box grumbling to himself , hear him cussing in his apartment all the time, listen to him talk about how other people he couldn't stand.

So I know I am in a growing up process and there are growing pains guess that's part of it, I am going to take responsibilty and not ignore the problem because I would like to get to the other side and be able to love more often, to accept things better and to have a stronger faith in all things.

I am afraid to say that as a child and growing up I didn't get the self sufficience and learn that happiness and contentment come from within. I didn't grow up and outgrow the selfecenterdness of a child EEK BUMMER something along the way went haywire and I got lost, probably just refused to accept a few details that were going on in my life that I found unacceptable and became resentful and even hateful. Why do I know this now ? because not until I accepted a few of these deatils was I able to stay clean from my addiction that is what held me up for so many years struggling in recovery falling in and out of the rooms and the program. Then one day it hit me that my resentment was what was keeping me down and that day I chose another path which is the ame path I must choose with this situation.

Revelatation has been brought to me once again through sharing with others thanks again EVERYONE.

Been pondering over that thought that I may be an adrenaline junky and prety sure I am.

I don't work out at the gym like I used to for many years I used to get real high on that LOL so maybe this anger is feeding my addiction in some way looking very close at that.

I have been so damn busy working I haven't done what I need to do yet but there is a class starting Sept 2nd at the adult college and its quite inexspensive compared to counseling so I may get into that class , its an 8 week course and on Wednesday nights which are my meeting nights here so I may just change my meeting here to another day , hell there all open anyhow pretty much

I think its closer to what the triangle of obsession describes though. I know where this all comes from originally and why pretty much I've had to go back into my child hood and see that little boy who's still stuffed down inside of me and who may still be suffering, that's the sad part , still caring that hurt child around and acting out behind his feelings.

I also need to get a few of those Bradshaw books which one or more do you think might benefit me ?

Thanks Dean

Looks like if i join amazons audio club there pretty cheap down load them then burn to CD pretty kewl and cheap compared to already made CD which are over $50 thanks Dean I will be getting thoughs.

I didn't know that about him well that makes it first hand experience and I respect that a great deal, gotta get signed up at amazon in the morning, start DLing those tapes.

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I didn't know that about him well that makes it first hand experience and I respect that a great deal, gotta get signed up at amazon in the morning, start DLing those tapes.

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well my guess of 45 years was pretty close.  It'll be 44 this december.



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ABOUT JOHN BRADSHAW BIOGRAPHICAL DATA

For the past four decades, John Bradshaw has combined his exceptional skills as the role of counselor, author, management consultant, theologian, philosopher, and public speaker, becoming one of the leading figures in the fields of addiction/recovery, family systems, relationships, Spiritual and emotional growth, and management training. John brought the phrases dysfunctional families and inner child into mainstream society. His dynamic training and therapies are practiced all over the world. A much sought out speaker, John has truly touched and transformed the lives of millions.  He was elected by a group of his peers as one of the most influential writers on emotional health in the 20th Century.

Born into a troubled family on June 29, 1933 in Houston, Texas and abandoned by his alcoholic father at a young age, John became both an academic overachiever and an out-of-control teenager.  He later studied for the Roman Catholic priesthood at a Basilian seminary where he remained for nine and one-half years, leaving just a few days prior to being ordained.  During that time he earned his Bachelor of Arts and Master degrees in psychology, philosophy, and theology from St. Michaels College at the University of Toronto, graduating Magna Cum Laude.  He continued his post graduate studies at Rice University and earned a Masters of Spiritual Psychology at University of Santa Monica.  Throughout his education, John was the recipient of many merit awards, including, the Trustees' Scholarship, John MacDonald Scholarship in Philosophy, Cardinal Mercier Gold Medal in Philosophy and the Trustees' Gold Medal for Academic Excellence.

During his years of study, John developed a drinking problem, and on December 11, 1965, took a drastic stephe committed himself to Austin State Hospital for the treatment of his dependency to alcohol.  John continues to celebrate that day; because that was the day he took his last drink.  John signed himself out of the hospital after six days and entered an alcohol recovery program.  Soon afterward he began to lecture at a local church, and before long, was in high demand as a counselor, teacher, public speaker, and corporate consultant.

TELEVISION, RADIO, NEWSPAPER & MAGAZINE SHOWS & INTERVIEWS
Over the past 35 years the venerable John Bradshaw has hosted, appeared on, been interviewed on over 800 television and radio shows worldwide.  John has appeared on Oprah, Geraldo, Sally, Dr. Ruth, Tom Snyder, Donahue, Politically Incorrect, Good Morning America, CNN News, CNN-Talk Back Live, the BBC and on Sirius Radio. He has been interviewed for, or written articles for over 600 magazines (including Newsweek, Rolling Stone, People, Lears & The Hollywood Reporter), newspapers (including Chicago Tribune, Los Angeles Times, Chicago Tribune, Dallas Morning News, Houston Chronicle, Boston Globe, San Francisco Chronicle, and Portland's Oregonian.) At one time or another, virtually every newspaper in major markets in the United States has written articles about John Bradshaw.) John has been interviewed or written for special trade magazines. John has presented over 5000 keynote speeches, workshops, lectures and talks, and  over 1,600 one to two  day intensive workshops (US and Internationally.)

In the 1960s and 1970s, John hosted Spotlight, a weekly one-hour variety television show.  In the early 1980s, he produced The Eight Stages of Man, an eight-part series for PBS.    With the 1986 airing of Bradshaw On: The Family, a ten-part PBS series, John became a television phenomenon.  His PBS series have gained huge audiences across the country. Since the 1980s, John garnered huge international audiences through his television productions, workshops and series, including Where Are You Father?, Healing The Shame That Binds You, Adult Children Of Dysfunctional Families, Surviving Divorce, Bradshaw On: Homecoming (Reclaiming and Championing Your Inner Child), Creating Love, Eating Disorders, and Bradshaw On: Family Secrets. Through his television production ventures with PBS, John helped raise over $12,000,000 for the Public Broadcasting System.

In 1991, John was nominated for an Emmy for Outstanding Talk Show Host for his series Bradshaw On: Homecoming.  In 1996, John was the host of the nationally syndicated talk show, The Bradshaw Difference with MGM Studios.  John is widely sought as a public speaker and continues to tour the world giving lectures and workshops.

In 1999, John was honored by a group of his peers and elected One Of The 100 Most Influential Writers On Emotional Health in the 20th Century, along with Sigmund Freud, Carl Jung, Joseph Campbell  and Erich Fromm."

JB did an amazing amount of  television lecture series  projects on PBS.  I was lucky enough to see the 10 part series "On the Family" in 1989 when I had about 4 months clean.  It was a telethon and they showed all 10 segments in a row.

PBS television:

• Spotlight: weekly program (host), 1969-1972
• The Eight Stages of Man: eight-part series, 1982
• Bradshaw On the Family: ten-part series, 1985
• Where Are You Father?: one-hour program, 1986
• Healing the Shame that Binds You: one-hour program, 1987
• Adult Children Of Dysfunctional Families: two-hour program, 1988
• Surviving Divorce: ninety-minute program, 1989
• Bradshaw On Homecoming: ten-part series, 1990
• Creating Love: ten-part series, 1992-1993
• Eating Disorders: three-part series, 1994-1995
• Bradshaw On: Family Secrets: six-part series, 1995
• The Bradshaw Difference: syndicated talkshow produced by MGM, 1996

 

Big V, glad to hear about the practicing of restraint. It get's easier. The main thing is that guys our age are in prime time heart attack era. Getting pissed is what sets most of the cardiac victims off. When you feel the anger coming on, and your chest tightening, say "F that I want to live" and take 10 nice long deep breaths and turn it over to HP.

OH and today I got the keys to my new home, I was totally crying in my truck when I left the realtors office and very greatful but that thing in my chest kept me from feeling like celebrating I feel so alone but I went ahead and called her and my family to give them the good news.

congrats on the new house. that's awesome! I'm getting the urge to buy another one, they're so cheap here. A 3/2 1500 s/ft. in a decent neighborhood for $75k. Heck the rent for a house like that is $1200