Hi every one I've been in the rooms of recovery for some time now. I'm very new to the message board on line stuff though. We all live in different places and I've experienced meetings can be very different even in different countries Sooo if anyone doesn't know what I'm talkin about I'll explain At the meeting during the reading of Just For Today people are shouting out tell yourself instead of Just For Today we used to say Just For Today wwhat is this about anyway? Any feed back Have you in your area been experiencing it?
Let me see if Ive understood your question,, are you asking about the meaning of JFT or asking why people shout it out ?
If thats the latter, then yes, I know that most places in England when the JFT is read out most addicts there will shout out "JUST FOR TODAY" and let the reader read the rest ! Whereas in India most places it isnt even read out.
The resaon, I figure thats the shouting is done, it to bring back an imaginative addict like me back to ground. Most meetings are very eventful and it is easy to get lost in someone elase's problems or worry too much about yesterday or tommorow. That seems to be the best reason that I can reckon,, as it applies to me , of course !
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Raman an addict clean and serene just for today in NA Worldwide ; live to love and love to live the NA Way !!!
i think we do this because it's a way to really try and say it in your head... an another area reads the JFT poem in the closing circle read by everyone......that's a very powerful way to read it as well.....
if all the meetings were the same why would we travel to different areas.... i love going to different places and seeing what happens at their meetings.....
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people who mind don't matter, and people who matter don't mind- Dr. Seuss
At our meetings the one person reading it reads the whole thing then everyone shouts out "I have nothing to fear" after the "so long as I live that way......"
You Guys are all so nice Ttruth is I'm pissed off and hurt because of the confussing message it could send to the new comer. This has been going on so long that people are shouting out Tell your self. They are not shouting "Just For Today". That is all we have . I'm sure You know what crap I used to tell my self cause really we are not all that different ! Even still today when I'm in a pinch I can't even look up an emegency number never mind remember what I'm supposed to tell myself. Tell your self is what every body is putting emphis on and the lone voice of the reader is having to repeat Just For Today over and over again by themselves. There is a number of us in town that try to get it back to Just For Today but The mass majority see's nothing wrong that it is just having fun. They are louder and stronger. Sure it is easier to say tell yourself in harmony then it is to say Just For Today in Harmony and especially now. I'm not even one to say anything during readings but it used to seem worth it to get the harmony and power right to to last saying it in the difficulty of the Just For Today. Every one is saying Tell yourself over and over This the only reading we have thats first sentence starts with the same thing " Just For Today" written in bold print over and over again. Gee I wonder if it was written that way in bold print for a reason maybe since we like to shout things out we could help the reader. I'm usually in South East Asia and it does not happen there and I have talked to loads of expats from many different countries and it doesn't happen there. I'm going crazy I'm not strong enough to stand up against a mass crowd that continues to keep doing this. They seem to be choosing it and not willing to recognize even a possiblity of it being What would you call it [Unexceptable] It slows down a bit every time I come back to town and I request it as a topic of the meeting. I'm so concerned I guess for me it really is a perfect example of people changing things and not reading the BLACK parts. Which are soo obvious in BOLD print When ever I leave the country People give up and then it starts all over again with the new batch of new comers coming out of a treatment center on the coast . I'm Embarassed to admit how much this affects me. I'm sure glad it wasn't going on when I first came in the rooms. I have searched inside of my self is it a controll issue? You know one of the ugly things that old timers do about change. When I first came in they said Just for Today and the reader read the rest of the sentence. This is the same town. I've asked myself all the questions am I not liking change? What I should do to let it go,?any sugestions on how to look at my stuff that maybe I haven't thought of. I can barely stand it any more. It is kind of making me minimize how many meeting I can stand having to listen to it. Or is this one of those situations that I need to have the courage to change the things I can .There used to be stronger personalities that where in the rooms before me that fixed this kind of stuff ! It is hard enough to be in Just For Today never mind trying to figure out just for to day Tell Your Self WHAT? JUST FOR TODAY I'M SUPPOSSED TO TELL MYSELF WHAT? When they tell others what to tell themself .Why do they bother saying the we version of the serenity prayer Sorry I'm just a messed up addict who feels very alone on an issue that for some reason seems more important to me then others
It's a form of brain washing LOL reprogramming our thoughts and messages we tell and talk to ourselves about.
Tell yourself: JUST FOR TODAY my thoughts will be on my recovery, living and enjoying life without the use of drugs. JUST FOR TODAY I will have faith in someone in N.A. who believes in me and wants to help me in my recovery. JUST FOR TODAY I will have a program. I will try to follow it to the best of my ability. JUST FOR TODAY through N.A. I will try to get a better perspective on my life. JUST FOR TODAY I will be unafraid, my thoughts will be on my new associations, people who are not using and who have found a new way of life. So long as I follow that way, I have nothing to fear.
It starts out with Tell yourself, then follows with things we need to tell ourselves each day to keep our focus on our recovery and if your anything like me I need to remind myself each day who and what I am and sometimes telling myself and reminding myself honestly of what I am keeps my mind from roaming into places it needn't be.
We do this one day at a time, keep it simple. Well it's not even simple one day at a time some days so just for this one day I need to stay clean stay focused and vigilant .
It may be driving you crazy hearing it because maybe your resisting being a part of the group ? we all want to feel special and we are each and every person is special becuase this whole program is pretty damn special and it takes every one of us as a group to hold this together for the next suffering person who comes along looking for help.
I can understand your resistance and i too have thought it silly until one day I started saying it out loud and the feelings that rose in my chest nearly made me weep, that there was power in that room greater then our addictions is something quite special.
Yes you need to inventory your feelings and that's ok your not alone there I do it on a daily basis with all sorts of things that bring me discomfort, usually what I find is something lacking in myself that needs attention and from there I grow to be unafraid, courageous, happy without the use of drugs, more honest with myself and more helpful to others and I continue to grow in recovery from the hopeless person I was .
I do agree that it is a form of reprograming and I love the Jsf reading I just have such a hard time with hearing people so caught up in shouting out tell yourself repeatedly I would much rather focus on Just for today cause that is really all we have I was reprogramed to believe in that and it helped me get out of the past and the future and live in today. I've been in a vulnerable state this year and I've had a couple of things about the program hit me hard when I reached out and tried to save my life. Because I had to travel around so much it has been easy for me to stay distant yet focused on N.A. being in my live but ignore clicky things Prehaps you have some truth to the fact that when I reach out and try to connect with fellow addicts and feel misunderstood on top of it , I do feel disassociated. The way things are going why don't they just change the title of the reading to tell yourself I don't know how anyone can hear JSF One of the things that attracted me to this web site was reading about people sharing about just for today thoughts they where random not exactly our readings but helpful thoughts that I might want to take on. I'll tell you though if they had of shared those thoughts with saying to me that I should tell myself at the being, I sure would have felt a lot differently about it.
When ever I leave the country People give up and then it starts all over again with the new batch of new comers coming out of a treatment center on the coast . I'm Embarassed to admit how much this affects me. I'm sure glad it wasn't going on when I first came in the rooms. I have searched inside of my self is it a controll issue? You know one of the ugly things that old timers do about change.
