hi its my first tim in this forum,iv just been reading everyones msgs and the suport seems great here. im a 28yr old girl from dublin ireland,i dont no if i can talk bout wat drugs im on here but here goes,im on methadone at the moment,but i am still smoking heroin everyday i cant even seem 2 b able 2 get stable on methadone,i just cant seem 2 get out of the habbit of having that smoke,iv realised d past couple of days the heroin is really starting 2 take over my life again,iv no motivation,all i want 2 b doin is smoking heroin! im writing this msg in hope u guys out there can give me some guidence and hope as im really desperate and very depressed at the moment,all i want is my life back and 2 get clean,tanx
Hey there Susie glad you came asking for help lets see if we can get you going with something .
First of all WELCOME, secondly your already gelping yourself by asking for help thats a form of surrender and your on Step 1 right now.
Is there any detox center in your area or drug treatment program and what about NA meeting places ?
The thing about addiction is sometimes the harder you try to quit the harder it goes after you, just relax and take it easy on yourself its going to take awhile to get this right and figure your addiction out and how it works on you mentally you have to out think it by using this program and the suggestions.
I am going to post Step 1 to you so you can see just what you are up against, WE HAVE ALL BEEN THERE but you have to ask yourself and do it honestly "Am I ready to stop and take responsibility for this addiction disease I have "?
Step One
We admitted we we powerless over our addiction, that our lives had become unmanageable
It doesn't matter what or how much we used. In Narcotics Anonymous staying clean has to come first. We realize that we cannot use drugs and live. When we admit our powerlessness and the inability to manage our own lives, we open the door to recovery. No one could convince us that we were addicts. It is an admission that we had to make for ourselves. When some of us have doubts, we ask ourselves this question: "Can I control my use of any form of mind or mood-altering chemicals?"
Most will see that control is impossible the moment it is suggested. Whatever the outcome, we find that we cannot control our using for any length of time.
This would clearly suggest that an addict has no control over drugs. Powerlessness means using against our will. If we can't stop, how can we tell ourselves we are in control? The inability to stop using, even with the greatest willpower and the most sincere desire, is what we mean when we say, "We have absolutely no choice". However, we do have a choice after we eliminate all the things we have been telling ourselves to justify our using.
We didn't stumble into this fellowship brimming with love, honesty, open-mindedness or willingness. We reached the point where we could no longer continue because of physical, mental, and spiritual pain. When we were beaten, we became willing.
Our inability to control our usage of drugs is a symptom of the disease of addiction. We are powerless not only over drugs, but our addiction as well. We need to admit this in order to recover. Addiction is a physical, mental and spiritual disease, affecting every area of our lives.
The physical aspect of our disease is the compulsive use of drugs: the inability to stop using once we have started. The mental aspect of our disease is the obsession, or overpowering desire, which leads us to using even when it has destroyed our lives. The spiritual part of our disease is our total self-centeredness. We felt that we could stop whenever we wanted to, despite all evidence to the contrary. Denial, substitution, rationalization, justification, distrust of others, guilt, embarrassment, dereliction, degradation, isolation, and loss of control are all results of our disease. Our disease is progressive, incurable and fatal. Most of us are relieved to find out we have a disease instead of a moral deficiency.
We are not responsible for our disease, but we are responsible for our recovery. Most of us tried to stop using on our own, but we were unable to live with or without drugs. Eventually we realized that we were powerless over our addiction.
Many of us tried to stop using on sheer willpower, and this turned out to be a temporary solution. We saw that willpower alone would not work for any length of time. We tried countless other remedies - psychiatrists, hospitals, recovery houses, lovers, new towns, new jobs. Everything we tried, failed. We began to see that we had rationalized the most outrageous sort of nonsense in order to justify the mess drugs had made of our lives.
Until we let go of all our reservations, the foundation on which our recovery is based is in danger. Reservations, no matter what they are, rob us of obtaining all the benefits this program has to offer. In ridding ourselves of all reservations, we surrender. Then, and only then, can we be helped to recover from the disease of addiction.
Now, the question is: "If we are powerless, how can Narcotics Anonymous help?" We begin by asking for help, and this is accomplished by working the Twelve Steps. The foundation is the admission that we, of ourselves, have no power over addiction. When we can accept this, we have completed the first part of Step One.
A second admission must be made before the foundation is complete. If we stop here, we will know only half the truth. We are great ones for manipulating the truth. We might say on one hand, "Yes, I am powerless over my addiction", and on the other hand, "When I get my life together, I can handle drugs". Such thoughts and actions led us back to active addiction. It never occurred to us to ask, "If we can't control our addiction, how can we control our lives?" We felt miserable without drugs.
Unemployability, dereliction and destruction are easily seen as characteristics of an unmanageable life. Our families generally are disappointed, baffled and confused by our actions and often have deserted or disowned us. Becoming employed, socially acceptable and reunited with our families does not make our lives manageable. Social acceptability does not equal recovery.
We have found that we had no choice except to completely change our old ways of thinking or go back to using. When we give our best, it works for us as it has worked for others. When we could no longer stand our old ways, we began to change. From that point forward, we can see that every clean day is a successful day, no matter what happens. Surrender means not having to fight anymore. We accept our addiction and life the way it is. We become willing to do whatever is necessary to stay clean, even the things we don't like doing.
Until we took Step One, we were full of fear and doubt. At this point, many of us felt lost and confused. We felt different. Upon working this step, we affirmed our surrender to the principles of Narcotics Anonymous, and only then did we begin to overcome the alienation of addiction. Help for addicts begins only when we are able to admit complete defeat. This can be frightening, but it is the foundation on which we have built our lives.
Step One means that we do not have to use, and this is a great freedom. It took a while for some of us to realize how unmanageable our lives had become; for others of us, this was the only thing of which we could be sure. We knew in our hearts that drugs had the power to change us into something that we didn't want to be.
Being clean and working this step, we are released from our chains. However, none of the steps work by magic. We do not just say the words of this step; we learn to live them. We see for ourselves that the Program has something to offer us.
We have found hope. We find that we can learn to function in the world we live in. We, too, can find meaning and purpose in life and be rescued from insanity, depravity and death.
When we admit our powerlessness and inability to manage our own lives, we open the door for a Power greater than ourselves to help us. It is not where we were that counts, but where we are going.
tanx bigv for the welcome and the support,im goin 2 start using this site regularly 4 the suport,there is meetings in my area but i dont really like goin i used 2 and kinda had a bad experience that turned me off them,well tanx for the information,hope 2 talk 2 u soon x
Hi Susie, i hope you take all of bigVs advice, I am no expert but what I do know is that letting go of this will actually make your life much better tho it might not seem it at first as you detox, you will go down to go up, but you will go up. You are so young, it's worth it to make the effort. There is so much wonderful life ahead. There are many wonderful friends here, everyone will help you through it day by day until you are better. Please come back -
Good luck Susie. You have a huge demon to battle but if sobriety is what you really want than sobriety is what you will have. You will have to work much harder at staying sober than you do at getting high. I strongly suggest detox or start weening yourself off of the dope. You have the methadone let it do its job. You can do this. You are not the first person to get sober and you will not be the last. Good luck! If you need anything let me know.
tanx emily 4 ur support,im new to these n.a online sites and this is the best one iv found so far, i no once i can get out of d habbit of havin a smoke (of heroin) i can get stable on my methadone and detox,im just finding it so hard at the moment iv a lot goin on personally that i turn 2 it 2 try block everything out,i dont really have any other coping skills,i just joined this site 2day and already i feel with the help and support from u guys i will get there,tanx look forward 2 hearing from u
hi torturedsoul,tanx 4 ur msg i just read it a few mins ago,as i just posted 2 emily,the support here is great and i no with the help and support of u guys i will get there,tanx again ur friend susie
Welcome home sweetie. Get yourself into a detox. The dope sickness and the overwhelming obsession and cravings are just so hard at first that relapse is so probable. You need to give yourself a fighting chance. Surely there are detox units in Dublin.
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hi jana,tanx 4 d msg,yea there is detox units in dublin,but there is a very long waiting list 2 get in cause theres really only one in dublin that take u in on methadone! once i get stable on my methadone i plan 2 detox off it, at the moment im also smoking heroin aswell, i dont need 2 go in 2 detox off dat cause im on my methadone so the w/d wouldnt b bad, its just the actual habbit of havin d smoke (of heroin) that im finding it very hard 2 get out of,tanx 4 d msg and support, look forward 2 hearing from u.
Hi Susie. I have been in your shoes and you will put the pipe down when you are ready to. Hopefully it is sooner than later. You are lucky to have the methadone because with out it you would have horrible with draw symptoms. I have a suggestion and that is if you are going to continue smoking maybe you should stop taking the methadone. Save it for when you are done smoking becuase that is when you will really need it. I am very worried for you cuz I know had terrible heroin addiction is. It takes over your whole entire life. And it is very hard to walk away from. But you have the methadone so you are steps ahead of other addicts who would like to stop. You can do this!!!! Good Luck!