I am chairing a meeting tomorrow (friday) night and I have been wanting to cover the topic of medication in NA. (i have been trying to cover topics that I havent heard covered very often and I thought this might be a good one)
I have found a bit in the basic text and the illness pamphlet, which are good, but they focus pretty much on physical ailments.
i was wondering if anyone knew of any literature addressing psych meds. as i know its a subject people wonder about since, technically they are mood altering. Is there any literature on this topic? I think i[ve looked pretty thoroughly, but I am not super with the literature, so I am hoping there is something I missed,
I don't know of any Sarah... I think the message is the same for any meds... As prescribed and remembering that our brains don't know the difference between meds for illness and meds for "fun". We have to be vigilant in following our doctor's directions and keeping in touch with professionals with respect to side effects, desire to abuse, etc. The other thing to remember is that none of us, in the rooms, function as professionals and are not qualified to advise each other on medications or their usages.
Have a good meeting!
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There is a new Service Pamphlet (Board-approved, not fellowship-approved) on "Medication and NA Meetings" that might help...
Besides, check out the "Review & Input" Draft of "In Times of Illness" booklet which is in the process of getting approved and thus replace the Illness booklet. This new revised edition does address mental health and medication in more detail...
Here's the link... after entering this link webpage, you need to type in the username and password which is WSC2010 for both to be able to access this review and input draft of Illness Booklet...
"If we do an honest examination of exactly what we are giving, we are better able to evaluate the results we are getting."Chapter 10 - Emotional Pain - NA Way of Life.
i have a follow up question on that, do you think its okay to use tha material in a meeting since its not 'approved' yet? i dont want to step on anyones toes
i cant seem to get a hold of any of the 'older' members of my homegroup to ask them. (i am waiting for some calls back)
Lee U-I'm an "old timer" and tend to be a purist about only using the original writings of NA & AA, but I don't think within the "suggestions" of the fellowships there is any prohibition against referencing other literature. I think it is fraught with peril tho!
As for psych issues and psych meds, I would utilize professional help in this area the same as I would go to a cardiologist, dentist, clergy person, or any other practitioner. And I would do my homework regarding the credentials, track record, level of expertise etc.
Many an addict/alcoholic has perished or gotten very, very sick, by following the "advice" of folks in the program who push the notion that properly prescribed and monitored therapies and medications for mental disorders such as depression, bipolar, schizophrenia etc. should be avoided or discontinued as "just" another mood-altering drug. That's playing God, not just playing doctor!
Thank God that today, with some research, I can usually locate helping professionals who are also knowledgible about addiction and recovery, who will do the best for me within those multiple conditions. The key, of course, is being honest with the providers that I am a recoverying addict/alcoholics This can make a big difference, especially if anesthesia is involved, and of course pain management.
I can also say that as long as I have a practitioner who understands addictive disease, I have never had to suffer intolerable pain because of the knee-jerk notion that I should "never" have any pain medication under any circumstance. For me, it is a matter of which medication, for how long, under what monitoring, with what support in place, and so on. (I'm talking about serious pain, like recovery from surgery, not a moderate tooth ache.)
I have found that knowledgible docs/dentists have been able to manage my pain by what meds they select, in conjunction with a known "relapse prevention" plan that might even include hospital-based detox from opiates given for back surgery.
For me, in dealing with my "whole person", the mental and physical conditions (I have several, chronic and recurring) that I have, if left untreated, or inadequately or poorly treatted, WILL first of all lead me back to using, and secondly, WILL probably kill me. So I speak up at meetingns where I hear some fool tell someone else to go off their meds or otherwise take their inventory in a misinformed, potentially dangerous manner.
So, as a meeting topic, while I personally would avoid "outside" literature, I wouln't hesitate to say that our steps and traditions in no way suggest that we shouldn't use common sense, expert professionals, and the medicine that is right for us, in support of our health and recovery.
-- Edited by LeeU at 13:35, 2009-03-01
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thank you for your input. i was able to get a hold of one of the oldtimers in my group and he gave me some suggestions as well. i know how controversial the topic can be so i was a little worried how it might go, but the meeting went great actually. i was really pleased with it. alot of people mentioned having been struggling with the topic both with physical ailments and psychological ones. there were alot of good messages that night.
You also might try reading bulletin #29 at www.na.org It addresses drug repacement therapy in reference to being clean. Might be helpful. Also, I would like to add that our 6th Tradition does specifically prohibit us from using literature from other twelve step programs. I think that would also include ANY literature from outside NA. Some might disagree, but the literature is pretty clear. Good Luck and keep growing....
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