Ye Vini i,,, inspite of the clutter,noise,chatter etc.of the mind relating to ego and desire,, theres a Great Silent Voice,, Ive experienced that Power many times in recovery and wish to call it the TRUE SELF !! I think it relates to the line in the Basic Text= """Gods will for us is our own true will for ourselves !!""(Step 11) Theres so many things going on in life for me now,, and it is very effective,simple and easy that my self will causes trouble and that Im most probably te only one that has the time and dedication to deal with it !! Like you said Joni,,getting outa the way is the way of sanity !! For me that itself has come from the practice called Meditation= "we allow the thoughts that arise die a natural death "(Step 11,,BT)
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Raman an addict clean and serene just for today in NA Worldwide ; live to love and love to live the NA Way !!!
"we allow the thoughts that arise die a natural death "
I read that once in our book Raman and went WOW!!! thats what I do these days instead of obcessing on my thoughts, just let them die a quiet death LOL.
I hear you Raman "Gods will for us is our own true will for ourselves !!"
I think we just got side tracked in life, I was'nt trained from child hood to listen to God even though I went to Catholic school for 5 years I dont believe anyone spoke to me about Listening to God LOL , actually my fondest memory of that school was getting flipped over backwards in my desk by some lunatic nun and getting a huge edd size knot on the back of my head so it was'nt a very spiritual experience for me, it was a nightmare LOL
But this and the other program have tought me and shown me more about spirituality and having a high power in my life then I would have ever known, for that I am greatful.
Funny thing Vini,, I was in Catholic school too,,, in my early schooling ! This included cathecism,moralising etc,,,,but no one said ""WHEN YOU FEEL YOUR LIFES TOO HARD,,,JUST GO HAVE A TALK WITH GOD !!!" Another funny thing happened in my life,, the most benevolent people in my life when i began recovery was the nuns and priest s other than AA members here and the NAs i wrote to !! they have also been very active in support of NA by way of giving classrooms ,, announcing in church etc. Lokks like ive come full circle buddy !! seen two entirely different aspects of the same Catholic faith !!
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Raman an addict clean and serene just for today in NA Worldwide ; live to love and love to live the NA Way !!!
I know Raman maybe i just got into a bad group of them , there was Sister Mary who worked in the office at the school and she used to counsel me and she was very very kind I forget about her she did try to work with me, I had a lot of family problems which I believe I was unhappy and acting out a lot and probably deserved the head slam anyhow LOL.
Sometimes I wish I had someone really spiritually benevolent to talk with I don't have anyone like that I just try to talk with my higher power
Just a thought comes from recovery experience= in the eraly days of my recovery as there was no NA and AA members were busy I had the fortune of assoctating many fro the Cath. church that were helping addicts,, they had a very patient ear for me, were full of blessings et.all. Even tho later NA members did come into my life,, I still had contact with them,they have helped me and do so till this day.(tho.Im non. Cath). Being an addict problems tend to get magnified in my mind and many times addicts or other helpful people were there for me. My personal experience and opinion is that the office of confession is almost like the "admission of exact nature of wrongs"in the 5th Step,, so maybe fidnng a priest to talk to,who knows where we come from and more importantly where we want to go in recovery maybe a great idea after all ! Love and compassion isnt exclusive to NA,,, otheres care too !
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Raman an addict clean and serene just for today in NA Worldwide ; live to love and love to live the NA Way !!!
I used to work in a grocery store when I was 15-16 years old and there was a priest from the church who used to come in just about every night and by a gallon of dago red LOL I remember him well, big huge man red faced, veins popping out of his nose he was alcoholic but a very nice man.
I may do just what you mention Raman , just see where I am led always keeping my eyes open for opportunity with others..
