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I hate this disease


Last night at the meeting the topic was about the 12th step but it ended up being what to do when people you care about relapse. They were talking about people who came in and stayed clean for one or two months and then left again, or even worse, people who had YEARS clean and went back out. and that there was really nothing you could do but plant the seed and hope they came back. and it just scared the crap out of me because I started to think, "what if that happens to me?" I've only got a little over 30 days clean, what if i end up being one of the ones to go back out.

Then I had trouble sleeping again last night and woke up at 3am. I come on the board and see one of our family in trouble, and after what the meeting was about last night it just scares me. I'm just almost in a state of panic about relapsing, and its silly because I don't even have the urge to use!

I know that that is just fear of the future and things that i can not control and I know the right answer is just for today, stay clean and pray and work a program. More than ever i have to be in the moment and stay clean right now, call my sponsor today, and make a meeting tonight. It just seems like a constant battle and i wish i could just be normal and not have to be constantly fighting this battle for my life. I wish I was back on my happy gratitude cloud but I think I'm on the pity pot now lol :(
 I just hate this disease, i hate that it ruins lives, betrays us, takes away friends, and kills us. I just hate it!!!

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Hi Keli..
I really identify with your feelings !!!
This disease gets us mad,craving,obssessed and @#$%^ it all up,,, like it says in the TEXT+
Something in our destructive personalities cries for failure !!!
However Ive learnt that in order to recover,,,
I have to let go with love !!
Rather than hate the isease which feeds on hate,,,
love myself for who Im and so be nurtured and stay in recovery,,,
recovery flourishes in love !!!


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Addiction by definition possesses a driven quality where we might tend to approach recovery and working the program in the same compulsive manner with which we approached our lives while using. But the spirit of this program is Gentleness. The 12-Step path is a gentle way, where love and acceptance are two vital channels in creating change and growth in our recovery.

One of my online NA friends once wrote to me, "know that there is a Higher Power who loves you now, this very moment, as you are, unconditionally." That was an a-ha moment for me then as I was trying hard to whip myself into abstinence and somehow force myself to change. It just did not work. I realized that a large part of the resultant frustration was due to my inability to accept myself as I was. I was chronically dissatisfied with self. Further, I let my fears rule over me and tried hard to use these fears to gain control over these unsatisfactory areas of my life, and that meant I had no trust, or even faith, that a Power greater than myself could help me, would take care of me...

That night after reading what this friend of mine had written to me, I got this sudden thought that if my Higher Power could unconditionally accept me and love me exactly for what I am (with all my faults and flaws), who am I to be dissatisfied with myself? Why can't I do the same? How can I do that? Also, a realization hit me that my Higher Power IS in charge, not me, that my Higher Power IS taking care of me, that I don't have to give in to my fears.

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great shares and thanks raman and tahir ((()))

for me... what i think about comes about.

the more i think about relapse....

right here...right now, i am in recovery

not living in the problem...living in the SOULution

waaaay less stressful!! :)



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Stay in the solution not the problem.

For me that means stay the hell out of my head, stay out of negative thoughts, stay out of the compulsion to use and bad places and with the wrong people.


Stay in;

Prayer

Literature

Sponsors

MEETINGS

STEPS

Read step 12 thats a wonderful place to be and it's also a GOAL to make, my sister is working the 12th step with her sponsor last night and she was getting down on herself for taking so long. All I could think of was to tell her how proud I was of her for getting to the 12th step and what a great place that was to be and to go ahead and finish now. She has lots of sponsees at 40 she just had a baby for the first time, she has a loving husband and a home and a good job. I see a definte personality change in her and even some spirituality LOL this was one tough mean little gal who could have cared less about another person, life had always been all about her but that has changed in this 11 years she's been clean.

We stay clean one day at a time one moment, one incident. We dont let negativety and hopelessness rule our thoughts anymore we can be successful we can make something good of our lives today we do look foreward to happiness, we dont look back much because we're looking foreward for once in our lives.

I heard a guy in a meeting on monday he is a sponsor and he said in all the years he'd been clean and gotten to know a lot of folks he watched a lot of them come and go and that it was painsul as hell seeing them go but he hung on. Thats what each of us who are in service have got to do hang on for the next newcomer who walks thru the doors or walks BACK thru we are the solution and proof that this program can and does work.

I came in and out for years, when I came back I saw the same faces, I would wonder HOW the hell do they do it and i asked, I finally understand how they do it and its not easy all the time, the hard MOMENTS can be walked threw with willingness and desire they pass. I have not had a compulsion to use in months thats a MIRACLE we are all miracles today and Blessed by a higher power for giving us this gift, always be thankful always give back what you have because thats is the  glues that holds this thing together

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thank you guys for your experience strength and hope. I was able to get back to sleep last night and I've calmed down a little now - which is good because i have so much to do today (painting the house) and it would have sucked to be up since 3am and running on all that anxious energy.

I'm still so glad I'm clean because doing things like painting my house become possible. I've been completely redecorating and doing some inexpensive remodeling since I got clean because my house used to be a drug addicts dungeon and thats exactly what it looked like. The windows were completely covered, everything was dark and dreary and cluttered. I want it to be a happy place of light and recovery now. I've cleaned the carpet, thrown out all my old curtains and bedspred and replaced the with some lighter brighter ones, rearranged the furniture and just chunked alot of stuff to make things more airy and light and Its such a nicer place to live in now. And today I'm starting the process of painting all the walls a nice clean simple white. Thats how I want my life to be - clean and simple and bright and airy. No more darkness and drama and despair all the time

I do fear relapse and I've heard the saying 'that which you fear the most will meet you halfway' and that just makes it even worse lol. I just still have allot to learn and pray about.

I'm making a decision right now to go about my day in gentleness and love and to be in the solution


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Thank you vini for that awesome share. Glad I read it smile.gif

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Hi Keli, sounds like you are one determined person. I can't think of a better way to change things, cleaning up the place and getting rid of any left over reminders. You have gone through so much, I think you need to be aware of relapse but it shouldn't consume you. All I can really say is great work with all the things you are doing to make your life normal. Keep focussed on your new life and everything will come into place for you.

Kenh in recovery.

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when i was moving out the dresser today in one of my drawers i found an old jewelry box and i was like oh wonder whats in this. i opened it up and it was full of using paraphernalia. the works, everything - im not going into the bloody gory details but it made me physically ill stumbling onto that little treasure. I can't believe i was Ok living like that - that it was once 'normal' for me to have crap like that stashed away. Its only been 38 days but I feel like a completely different person already. Every time i take a break from working I go outside and read the NA book, so at least i was a little more mentally prepared for what i found. Thank God that trash is out of my house, Thank God i don't have to live like that anymore. this whole redecorating thing has become like a cleansing process for me, both inside and out.

My sponsor is out of town at the NA world convention, along with my 2 'back-up' sponsors. and tomorrow I'm about to get a nice sized chunk of money and I'm just a little bit worried about how I'll handle that much cash all at once. I haven't had that much cash all at the same time in years, and if i did it would have been gone in 2 days. all i can say is thank god I'm clean because if I had gotten that money 38 days ago i don't know if i would be here. But I'm pretty sure I know what to do with it now. I'm opening up a savings account and I'm not getting a checkbook or anything so that the only way i can access it is to go physically to the bank, then I'm saving it for a downpayment or anything else i might need once i become responsible enough to do things like make downpayments lol. i haven't even had a bank account in over 10 years. this is all new stuff to me.


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I admire your strength. Your post gives me the shivers just thinking about it. Glad that you got rid of it right away. No need for unnessessary temptations. Opening bank accounts and joining the normal society is really fun. Like walking into a convenience store without everyone looking at you wierd, knowing why you are buying certain items.

kenh

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lol Kenh I totally relate - its like an adventure! smile
If I had only gotten my money a couple days earlier I would have liked to try to make it to the NA world convention with everyone, but there will be other conventions, area and regional, that I can make next time. And with all the work I'm doin right now I wanted to get this done instead of taking off for a few days out of town. Although I'm sure it would have been a great experience for me. But my sponsor's pickin me up a t-shirt lol. I just hope It doesnt say:
"My Sponsor Went to the NA World Convention and all I got was this Lousy T-shirt"

biggrin
(joking, joking, I can't WAIT to get my very first NA t-shirt lol)




-- Edited by Keli at 06:36, 2007-08-31

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hi All I drove 2So miles_ this day to do a show tommorow And yes., need less to say no live mtngs and no nearby Na. members - - So out Comes my mobile phone I log in and read all these sha r ings and I have my meeting tir the day god bless y all for being there !

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Thats awesome Raman, hope you have a good show. take care out there on the road
(((hugs)))

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Same for me Raman, that is why I log in almost everyday. Without this site, my recovery would much more difficult. Thanks to all of you.

kenh.

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yay Keli and Kenh ;
u can't imagine the strength and hope I get each time I read ur sharings.
its 2 in th morn ,shows over,had a great time and now I think
*another day clean,another day won *
really lov yall for being there fr an isollated addict like me,bless u

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Hey Raman, have a good sleep, hope you had fun. Look forward to hearing from you when you get a chance. Sounds like the show went good. The best part is that you are clean and serene. I can say the same for today, clean and serene.

kenh

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Love you too Raman. Hugs and Love.

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thanks Tahir lov u too buddy.
wow I had greatshow and great stay at Conoor.
I did hva problem wth the woman who wsplyingkeys and sang, I was being as straight wth her as I cud,but l know we did not get along.
most probably th end of an old association,,,,also met many new people who liked my music.
no matter what my reactions to tht woman, I luckily remembered the BASIC TEXT telling me=
we let people be who they are without having to pass judgement on them

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