Hey how you all doing? I used to be a member. for a few years, idid service work and had a spons and all that. but I do not go anymore. I am a RECOVERED addict. I could no longer allow NA to keep at me as if I were still sick. Telling me all the time I was selfish and that there is something wrong with my thinking. Its a brainwash people . the guys at top live very well by having you al as a constant source of income. They have learned how to get you to keep supporting them forever. By keeping you "sick".. Not no more though not this kid. Now I am not just "getting better" I have gotten better, and I have healed, and I have moved ON with my life, I no longer need to count clean days. Counting clean days meant I was never going to recover , it kept me thinking I was weak, that I could not go out into the world without having a meeting to run to . it was counting the days til I used again is all... why else did I need to keep track? I no longer have to keep count.. as I have no need to remember how long I am clean, as I am always going to BE clean. Meeting s keep you thinking you are a heartbeat away from using cause you are focussed on the newcomer .. its a trick. you did not use yesterday the newcomer did.. but NA has learned the tricks to keep your head in yesterday and to keep you scared, I hated always being torn down, because I was NOT sick anymore and if my thinking was so bad then explain why I was trying to recover? My thinking was ok somewhere, only the NA top dogs did NOT want me to know that...NA got me clean and taught me HOW to stay clean. and that I just do not have to use anymore. and I am grateful for that.. but you haver got to let it be temporary and you have got to move on. The best thing I did.. was get OUT of NA after a few years. YOU HAVE TO too... you have GOT to move on. you can and you won't use. and you will recover, a life in NA will not let you ever say you have recovered . they keep you feeling like a loser that NEEDS them, they make you dependent. I am so glad and grateful I left, I am glad and grateful I went to NA to get clean and learn HOW to stay clean and then MOVE ON WITH MY LIFE, you do not keep going to a doctor after an operation heals, the disease concept is a lie. Counting clean time is a countdown to relapse.. I do NOT have to count my clean days because they are always gonna be clean, ya get it? My friends just try, if you have more than 2 years and have really worked the program somewhat. you have to.. its not healthy staying in NA a long time, you HAVE to move on. By hearing the newcomers you think that helps you remember how bad it is and you will never return to using.. thats a lie.. its a brainwashing technique that keeps you in fear that keeps your last drug experience in your life as if it were yesterday and you are scared you will use .. stop hearing that shit and you won't be thinking about it all the time you are strong now and you are never gonna know how well you are now IN NA. I love you guys I am trying to tell you the truth. I am doing really great I live drug free and I am all good as far as I knew I had to work on myself but dwellling day after day is NOT the way to go. Please don't be afraid of the words I am saying.. you have GOT to let go of NA and walk, you will NOT relapse by believing you are recovered see if you believe you are recovered then you won't need NA anymore and that is what NA organizers do not want you all are also cash cows for those people..NA is the ties they have set up to BIND you Honest. please think . its fine out here and you are healthy enough to join the world without having to hear how weak you are or keep yourself tied to your last use.. you will NOT FORGET,,, you are NOT STUPID get free and say I am a RECOVERED addirt instead of recover-ING how long are you gonna nurse that wound HEAL AND MOVE ON. my last meeting was like 4 years ago and it was the best meeting i ever went to BECAUSE it was the last one. you can make it, if you want to, there are people who have left NA and have NOT gone back out and are doing ok...I am one of the many....good luck to you all please come out soon... it's a wonderful world out here.
Yes, the goal is to become productive members of society. It is possible to do that and stay in recovery as well. In my case I find that staying in recovery supports me so that I am better able to participate in the world.
We each have our path to follow. Some of us stay very involved with NA. Some of us less so. Others, not at all. Thankfully, the doors of Narcotics Anonymous are open to everyone at any level of involvement.
Thanks for sharing, Azul, and for bringing up this important topic. Maybe in the future it would be possible to talk about it without insulting others. Sharing involves sharing one's experience, strength, and hope, not so much telling others how to think or what to do.
1 out of 10 make it on there own. I thought i was different for 7 years and i was just in denial. It sounds like your doing good so you are the lucky 10%. I just can't take that risk today. Thanks for sharing but i agree to disagree.....remember the door is always open when your ready
Hi buddy AZUL,,,,, great share !!! buddy you have voiced my own concerns,troubles,thoughts and feelings !! However I know that I love to be in contact with NA Worldwide !!! This is a decision I make cause I love the sort of life NA has given me,,, recovery,fame ,fortune,,, and most importantly SERENITY !!! God help me change the things I cannot stand,, and stnd the things i cannot change,,, this is my policy/attitude !!! You are very honest,pardon my judging you,,,but i know that honesty needs to be tempered with openmindedness andnhumility,,, thats what actually works for em,,,see you soon buddy !!! P.S. AZUL means Blue no ? Blue=the colour of Serenity in my experience !!!
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Raman an addict clean and serene just for today in NA Worldwide ; live to love and love to live the NA Way !!!
WOW!!!! You know what i want to say about this topic F**KIN B***SH**!!!
I know NA needs no defending....but damn NA has saved my life!!!! I know that it does not work for everyone, but for this addict.....NA works!!
This is for the newcomer that may read this post......if you want what we have to offer and are willinging to make the effort to get it then you are ready to take certain steps..........this program works if you work it! For me its not about the drugs.....IT IS A DISEASE! That affects every area of my life...EVERY AREA! My treatment is the NA way of life. I am truly grateful for the gifts of this program.
This program is based on attraction rather than promotion. I am so grateful I do not have to promote my new way of life today! If you want it, you will get it...if you dont, then....please don't come to my home.....and push your way of life on me!
I've come across a few members myself who feel NA is only about making meetings, doing service work in NA, reading NA literature and so on. However, I've come to understand and personally experience that NA is about living the program on the outside and practising the principles in all my affairs, not only inside NA
Unfortunately (if one is in denial) and fortunately (if one is able to see the grace in it), I cannot practise these principles in all my affairs, by myself, all alone. It's a WE program. I've read something along the lines in our literature that those who stop coming to our meetings or not in contact with other recovering addicts in NA, the program ceases to work for them. I've experienced that to be so true in my own personal recovery, even though I've experienced it over only a few days or a week of not going for a meeting or not reaching out to others in NA...lol...
For me, I'm better able to be loving and caring with my loved ones when I'm a regular part of NA, I'm better able to commit and be responsible towards my family when I'm a regular part of NA, I'm better able to take care of my physical, mental, emotional, social and spiritual areas when I'm a regular part of NA, I'm better able to be more creative and productive at work when I'm a regular part of NA, I'm more free of my defects of character when I'm a regular part of NA...
My overall well being in all areas of my life depend on whether I'm IN NA or AROUND NA! And for that, I'm grateful Why would I want it any other way? It's advantageous, it's rewarding, my life gets better and better everyday as a result of actively participating in the NA program & fellowship. I'd rather stay in NA admitting and accepting the fact that I'm still an addict rather than to die trying to prove I'm not
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"If we do an honest examination of exactly what we are giving, we are better able to evaluate the results we are getting."Chapter 10 - Emotional Pain - NA Way of Life.
