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too much


this past month has felt like it has snow balled and slapped me in tha face several times. I really don't know how much more i can handle just found out a girl I used to go to her house often just to be around a clean inviroment has died this morning clean I guess that is the miracle. there has been so many other thing happening all so fast I am hanging on with a thread. It seems to be getting thinner the longewr I hold it. I am at wits end and don't know how much more I can endure. I have been using gratitdude to get thru the days but like I said life is happening too fast. I feel like i am beiong tested on just what i can take before i snap. The good thing is I don't wanna use. The pain has got to stop, in all honesty I do not know how much more I can take with out falling apart. thanx for listening and bieng my NA family.

                                                                          love in recovery Manon

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I would email you this personal but you must have the email function off, anytime you need to talk i'd be happy to call, sometimes just reaching out to others when we're down n out helps get us out of ourselves.

 

I get this way now and then too, sometimes the feeling just looms over me for days but it does go away , I think we're sorta used to misery . MAybe do something to make yourself feel good Rayne, your the one who makes you happy find something.

 It seems to be getting thinner the longewr I hold it

I have one  question . what is "IT", the IT that your feeling? 



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ya know vin I am really going to have to think what it is myself I can noty pinpoit it right now but i will think on it and get back to you

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Funny thing Rayne,,,,
most of the "BAD" feelings are chaseable,, you can chase em away !!!
Just getting concious of what I am feeling and then defining it has made em disappear !!!
Like last evening we ahd an NA event here,,, started with a recoverey meeting for a short while and the music.
Soemhow I got into a dark feeling ,,,,
I had no reason to feel that way !!
it was a disturbance ,,,, and hung on till i chose to share with others,,, and then it was gone, leaving me serene again !
thats why they say clean and serene,,,,
so if i am ready to clean my mind of the negative,weird ,dirty,scary feelings,,, then Serenity will come to stay !!!

-- Edited by Raman at 04:24, 2007-01-27

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Raman an addict clean and serene just for today in NA Worldwide ; live to love and love to live the NA Way !!!


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thanx ramon I need to hear that i thinki am going to sit down and journal try to identify "it" then talk to my sponser in hopes of serenity than k you for your input I am gratefull to have all of you as a support system

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Hi Rayne,

Well, I could say all kiinds of cheerful buttery sloganish wonderful quotation kinda things, but I've known you long enough to know you are aware of those. Instead, I will try and share my experiences with you cause as far as I know that's what the program asks.

In the months that I have been coming in here, I have suffered everything from loss of personal "stuff", depression, a suicide attempt, and a few hospital "stays" due to the things that happen to every day people in every day life. My experience shows me that I cannot do it alone, and that even though I have stopped doing the things I used to do to hide from life I just don't have the experiences yet to cover all the bases clean. To me that means I really don't know how to live life on life's terms. That means for me it's going to take alot of trial and error whether I like it or not to hopefully learn what life's terms even are, much less muddle through them.

Now some people might consider that pretty negative thinking, but again, to me it's the fact that even after being clean for a while, I have no desire to live in reality. I want life to STILL be the way I want it, not the way it is. When things are going my way I'll run about spouting the greatness of the program and how I am grateful ,and so on and so forth. The true test is when I have to bear down, grit my teeth, and muddle about until I get through whatever new trial comes my way. When I stay clean through the worst of times, I don't really feel like I have grown or becoume more spiritual nor do I go for the pain is a great motivator thing. All I do know is there is some small satisfaction in being clean in spite of me and how I think. 

So I continue to pray even though I don't believe it works, i go to meetings, even though I don't think it helps, and I try to try many other things that are the exact opposite of what I want or believe, because THAT is what really keeps me sober and clean. My thoughts are my worst enemy and the fears of facing emotions destroy me. I'm no saint, and I have made lots of mistakes, but damnit I am still here, and i still make some small effort to trudge the road towards happy destiny...

So I am sorry you have to feel pain, and I am sorry that it hurts, but guess what? Life happens, and you have to live it..... Choose betwen where you came from, and exeperience a fate worse than death, or walk through it and it might get better. Don't know about you, but I don't like handcuffs and feeling like I am lower than whale turds. I'll take the latter choice.

Peace out....

BT
  

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Wel well well,, we got a choice,,, either its CLEAN &SERENE,,, by staying on the Steps,,,

or its clean and crazy,,, where one stays clean but dosent want to get spiritual !!

I choose the first,,

why even yesterday,, i had a crazy thing happen !!

i was going for a show when at an intersection the car in front of me braked and i rammed him from the back !!!

My first reaction was

'"""Oh fuck no,,, this cant be happening !!!!" """"

And then we argued and i promised i will help get his car fixed too !!

the whole day that was on the back of my mind,,, my first instinct is to shift the blame,,

 

 

onto the radio that was playing,, onto soem Na members who were in my head,, onto my ma etc...

But in the evening after the 10th Step i got back into clean and serene mode from the clean and crazy mode,,,,

mind you i wasnt reacting as badly as i used to,,,,

for this i give thanks to the 12 Step tradition of NA !!!

i also read the IT WORKS book !!! 

And yes sure,, no matter what cynics and such like may say,, it works,, each and every time without fail !!!\

God Bless you in your recovery !!! 



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Brett thomas wrote:
...and that even though I have stopped doing the things I used to do to hide from life I just don't have the experiences yet to cover all the bases clean. To me that means I really don't know how to live life on life's terms. That means for me it's going to take alot of trial and error whether I like it or not to hopefully learn what life's terms even are, much less muddle through them.

Now some people might consider that pretty negative thinking, but again, to me it's the fact that even after being clean for a while, I have no desire to live in reality. I want life to STILL be the way I want it, not the way it is...

So I continue to pray even though I don't believe it works, i go to meetings, even though I don't think it helps, and I try to try many other things that are the exact opposite of what I want or believe, because THAT is what really keeps me sober and clean. My thoughts are my worst enemy and the fears of facing emotions destroy me. I'm no saint, and I have made lots of mistakes, but damnit I am still here, and i still make some small effort to trudge the road towards happy destiny...  

Wow, thanks for that honest share, Brett. I could so relate with it. I don't know if that is negative or positive thinking, but I guess that is how everyone of us addicts feel, or at least, what I feel, almost everyday, still, in my recovery...

It's amazing that, inspite of so much of pain, inability to open our minds many a times, we are able to stay clean, that we are able to do many things even though we might not like doing them. As if a dynamic force within keeps working, inspite of our disease and our doubts over the NA program, towards faith and hope in the NA program... And we stay clean and continue to grow... 



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