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Raman · Raman

Hi all, Raman an addict here. Clean and serene in NA.... I was wondering how many of us encountered the Step 4 guide. In those days this was the only step working guide we had. Previous to this, the 4th Step was written based on the Basic Text 4th Step section. Then addicts decided that a guide would be mo...

Dave R · Dave R

We recognize our spiritual growth when we are able to reach out and help others. Basic Text, p. 58 = To make a difference in the world, to contribute something special, is perhaps the highest aspiration of the human heart. Each one of us, no matter what our personal makeup, has a unique quality to off...

Jeffrey19953 · Jeffrey19953

First, my clean date is 3/15/83. Second, I work in treatment, and refer heroin addicts for suboxone treatment. I am a happy addict who believes in traditions, not opinions. Since the only requirement for membership is a desire to stop using, I would think everyone would agree that an addict who en...

Dave R · Dave R

Our friendships become deep, and we experience the warmth and caring which results from addicts sharing recovery and a new life. IP No. 19, Self-Acceptance = Most of us come to Narcotics Anonymous with few genuine friends. And most of us arrive without the slightest understanding of what it take...

k8isgr8ful · k8isgr8ful

There is a person who really hurt me a few months ago. She was somewhat of a friend of my husband and I and we tried to help her get back on her feet--we were trying to help a sick and suffering addict like you all tell us. This person went around telling people she was sleeping with my husband. 99% of me doesn'...

Dave R · Dave R

Often we have to face some type of crisis during our recovery, such as the death of a loved one... Basic Text, p. 102 = Every life has a beginning and an end. However, when someone we love a great deal reaches the end of their life, we may have a very hard time accepting their sudden, final absence. Our g...

Dave R · Dave R

The way to remain a productive, responsible member of society is to put our recovery first. Basic Text, p. 106 = The meetings have been great! Each night weve attended, weve gathered with other addicts to share experience, strength, and hope. And each day, weve used what weve learned in the meeti...

Dave R · Dave R

A symptom of our disease is alienation, and honest sharing will free us to recover. Basic Text, p. 83 = Truth connects us to life while fear, isolation, and dishonesty alienate us from it. As using addicts, we hid as much of the truth about ourselves from as much of the world as we possibly could. Our...

avid · avid

We've all heard the expression "keep coming back" It reminds us that Addiction is an incurable disease, and the experience, strength, and hope we receive at a meeting is an ongoing treatment. It further reminds that even when the desire to use has been lifted, we can only "keep what...

Dave R · Dave R

This is our road to spiritual growth. We change every day.... This growth is not the result of wishing but of action and prayer. Basic Text, pp. 37 = Our spiritual condition is never static; if its not growing, its decaying. If we stand still, our spiritual progress will lose its upward momentum....

Dave R · Dave R

We found that we do not recover physically, mentally, or spiritually overnight. Basic Text, p. 28 = Have you ever approached a recovery celebration with the feeling that you should be further along in your recovery than you are? Maybe you have listened to newcomers sharing in meetings, members w...

MIKEF · MIKEF

Goodmorning and blessings of this day!Welcome to another day of Life to all, especially those here for first time,or just coming back. Our last 15 months in our relocation to Florida from New York ,leaving our jobs(mine of 34 years)and starting new and seeking to be near my wifes family to help in thei...

Dave R · Dave R

We dont have to settle for the limitations of the past. We can examine and reexamine our old ideas. Basic Text, p. 11 = Most of us come to the program with a multitude of self-imposed limitations that prevent us from realizing our full potential, limitations that impede our attempts to find the valu...

PopTart · PopTart

I've been clean for just over 4 months now, I've really been struggling these past few days, i haven't been to a meeting in weeks. I guess i felt maybe just checking in some where would do me some good for now. Ive planned my relapse, from beginning to end, although honestly it usually ends in my head with m...

Dave R · Dave R

By giving unconditional love... we become more loving, and by sharing spiritual growth we become more spiritual. Basic Text, p.103 = Most of us have one or two exceptionally difficult people in our lives. How do we deal with such a person in our recovery? First, we take our own inventory. Have we w...

avid · avid

My sponsor calls addiction the disease of more. So true. I haven't had drug cravings for years, but my disease is still alive and well. The latest manifestation is that I have a pertty serious hernia. I started going to the gym a while ago "to get fit" ...and them became obsessed with body b...

Dave R · Dave R

Something inside cries out, Enough, enough, Ive had enough, and then they are ready to take that first and often most difficult step toward dealing with their disease. = Have we really had enough? This is the crucial question we must ask ourselves as we prepare to work the First Step in Narcotics A...

LizC · LizC

Please pray to your god tonight for strength for me as I am not doing OK. I am struggling once again and as much as I know using is wrong and I have called many people and am in the middle of no where for the week I'm not sure I can keep going.

Dave R · Dave R

We begin to see that Gods love has been present all the time, just waiting for us to accept it. Basic Text, p. 46 = Gods love is the transforming power that drives our recovery. With that love, we find freedom from the hopeless, desperate cycle of using, self-hatred, and more using. With that love, w...

Dave R · Dave R

Through active listening, we hear things that work for us. Basic Text, p. 106-107 = Most of us arrived in Narcotics Anonymous with a very poor ability to listen. But to take full advantage of the therapeutic value of one addict helping another, we must learn to listen actively. What is active liste...

Dave R · Dave R

Most of us pray when we are hurting. We learn that if we pray regularly, we wont be hurting as often or as intensely. Basic Text, p. 44 = Regular prayer and meditation are two more key elements in our new pattern of living. Our active addiction was more than just a bad habit waiting to be broken by force o...

IHateEndo · IHateEndo

I hope I'm doing this right, I'm new and I don't even know if I belong here but I guess I figured this was a good way to find out... Here's my story. I'm 24. I was diagnosed with kidney stones when I was 14 and endometriosis when I was 18, both of which are very painful. To date I have had 11 surgeries in the pa...

John · John

I hate to put these notifications out here, but we are currently 25.00 in arrears on our message board cost, and that will only bring us current. Anyone who can donate a few dollars to help offset the cost of this expense, please consider doing so as soon asap. Any surplus will be used to pay it in advanc...

Dave R · Dave R

...we accept responsibility for our problems and see that were equally responsible for our solutions. Basic Text, p. 94 = Some of us, well accustomed to leaving our personal responsibilities to others, may attempt the same behavior in recovery. We quickly find out it doesnt work. For instance,...

Dave R · Dave R

We focus on anything that isnt going our way and ignore all the beauty in our lives. Basic Text, p. 77 = Its easy to be grateful when everything runs smoothly. If we get a raise at work, were grateful. If we get married, were grateful. If someone surprises us with a nice present or an unasked favor, w...

Dave R · Dave R

Since the beginning of our recovery, we have found that joy doesnt come from material things but from within ourselves. Basic Text, p. 103 = Some of us came to Narcotics Anonymous impoverished by our disease. Everything wed owned had been lost to our addiction. Once we got clean, we put all our ene...

alyqat4 · alyqat4

So I work as peer support for women just coming out of a treatment facility and I take them to meetings....I'm a pure-bred NA member because it works for me and makes the most sense to me... Since I've started this job I go to AA meetings once in a while if that's where the woman wants to go and I don't feel rig...

Dave R · Dave R

By shaping our thoughts with spiritual ideals, we are freed to become who we want to be.Basic Text, p. 101=Addiction shaped our thoughts in its own way. Whatever their shape may once have been, they became misshapen once our disease took full sway over our lives. Our obsession with drugs and sel...

mtyduk8 · mtyduk8

Just had a quick question, new to the forums, wasn't sure where else to ask this. Tomorrow, I celebrate 6 months clean. I am working the next 10 days straight due to an election in my home state. My clean date is February 5th. Can I wait to celebrate once I'm able to fit a meeting into my work schedule, or if I...

Dave R · Dave R

Addicts tend to live secret lives.... It is a great relief to get rid of all our secrets and to share the burden of our past. Basic Text, p. 32 = Weve heard it said that were as sick as our secrets. What do we keep secret, and why? We keep secret those things that cause us shame. We may hold onto such thing...

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	Working Step 4 in Narcotics Anonymous (1988); the first Step writing guide in NA ! (Preview) Hi all, Raman an addict here. Clean and serene in NA.... I was wondering how many of us encountered the Step 4 guide. In those days this was the only step working guide we had. Previous to this, the 4th Step was written based on the Basic Text 4th Step section. Then addicts decided that a guide would be mo...	Raman	5	1220	Aug 23, 2013 by Raman
	JFT August 22 Contribution (Preview) We recognize our spiritual growth when we are able to reach out and help others. Basic Text, p. 58 = To make a difference in the world, to contribute something special, is perhaps the highest aspiration of the human heart. Each one of us, no matter what our personal makeup, has a unique quality to off...	Dave R	1	249	Aug 23, 2013 by cdbuckberry
	Suboxone (Preview) First, my clean date is 3/15/83. Second, I work in treatment, and refer heroin addicts for suboxone treatment. I am a happy addict who believes in traditions, not opinions. Since the only requirement for membership is a desire to stop using, I would think everyone would agree that an addict who en...	Jeffrey19953	6	544	Aug 21, 2013 by AustinLL
	JFT August 21 Friendships (Preview) Our friendships become deep, and we experience the warmth and caring which results from addicts sharing recovery and a new life. IP No. 19, Self-Acceptance = Most of us come to Narcotics Anonymous with few genuine friends. And most of us arrive without the slightest understanding of what it take...	Dave R	1	230	Aug 21, 2013 by cdbuckberry
	I need help...Getting from RESENTMENT to FORGIVENESS (Preview) There is a person who really hurt me a few months ago. She was somewhat of a friend of my husband and I and we tried to help her get back on her feet--we were trying to help a sick and suffering addict like you all tell us. This person went around telling people she was sleeping with my husband. 99% of me doesn'...	k8isgr8ful	10	457	Aug 20, 2013 by k8isgr8ful
	JFT August 20 Facing death (Preview) Often we have to face some type of crisis during our recovery, such as the death of a loved one... Basic Text, p. 102 = Every life has a beginning and an end. However, when someone we love a great deal reaches the end of their life, we may have a very hard time accepting their sudden, final absence. Our g...	Dave R	1	234	Aug 20, 2013 by cdbuckberry
	JFT August 18 "How long do I have to go?" (Preview) The way to remain a productive, responsible member of society is to put our recovery first. Basic Text, p. 106 = The meetings have been great! Each night weve attended, weve gathered with other addicts to share experience, strength, and hope. And each day, weve used what weve learned in the meeti...	Dave R	2	358	Aug 18, 2013 by MIKEF
	JFT August 17 Tell the truth (Preview) A symptom of our disease is alienation, and honest sharing will free us to recover. Basic Text, p. 83 = Truth connects us to life while fear, isolation, and dishonesty alienate us from it. As using addicts, we hid as much of the truth about ourselves from as much of the world as we possibly could. Our...	Dave R	0	198	Aug 17, 2013 by Dave R
	why do you "keep coming back" to NA? (Preview) We've all heard the expression "keep coming back" It reminds us that Addiction is an incurable disease, and the experience, strength, and hope we receive at a meeting is an ongoing treatment. It further reminds that even when the desire to use has been lifted, we can only "keep what...	avid	5	677	Aug 17, 2013 by Raman
	JFT August 16 Up or down (Preview) This is our road to spiritual growth. We change every day.... This growth is not the result of wishing but of action and prayer. Basic Text, pp. 37 = Our spiritual condition is never static; if its not growing, its decaying. If we stand still, our spiritual progress will lose its upward momentum....	Dave R	1	224	Aug 17, 2013 by cdbuckberry
	JFT August 15 Over time, not overnight (Preview) We found that we do not recover physically, mentally, or spiritually overnight. Basic Text, p. 28 = Have you ever approached a recovery celebration with the feeling that you should be further along in your recovery than you are? Maybe you have listened to newcomers sharing in meetings, members w...	Dave R	1	278	Aug 17, 2013 by cdbuckberry
	Please join me in a moment of reflection (Preview) Goodmorning and blessings of this day!Welcome to another day of Life to all, especially those here for first time,or just coming back. Our last 15 months in our relocation to Florida from New York ,leaving our jobs(mine of 34 years)and starting new and seeking to be near my wifes family to help in thei...	MIKEF	10	440	Aug 16, 2013 by kitty doyle
	JFT August 14 Letting go of our limitations (Preview) We dont have to settle for the limitations of the past. We can examine and reexamine our old ideas. Basic Text, p. 11 = Most of us come to the program with a multitude of self-imposed limitations that prevent us from realizing our full potential, limitations that impede our attempts to find the valu...	Dave R	0	331	Aug 14, 2013 by Dave R
	Clean 131 Days (Preview) I've been clean for just over 4 months now, I've really been struggling these past few days, i haven't been to a meeting in weeks. I guess i felt maybe just checking in some where would do me some good for now. Ive planned my relapse, from beginning to end, although honestly it usually ends in my head with m...	PopTart	8	436	Aug 14, 2013 by Dave R
	JFT August 13 Difficult people (Preview) By giving unconditional love... we become more loving, and by sharing spiritual growth we become more spiritual. Basic Text, p.103 = Most of us have one or two exceptionally difficult people in our lives. How do we deal with such a person in our recovery? First, we take our own inventory. Have we w...	Dave R	0	187	Aug 13, 2013 by Dave R
	The disease of 'more' (Preview) My sponsor calls addiction the disease of more. So true. I haven't had drug cravings for years, but my disease is still alive and well. The latest manifestation is that I have a pertty serious hernia. I started going to the gym a while ago "to get fit" ...and them became obsessed with body b...	avid	7	385	Aug 13, 2013 by jonnblaze
	JFT August 12 Enough! (Preview) Something inside cries out, Enough, enough, Ive had enough, and then they are ready to take that first and often most difficult step toward dealing with their disease. = Have we really had enough? This is the crucial question we must ask ourselves as we prepare to work the First Step in Narcotics A...	Dave R	0	279	Aug 12, 2013 by Dave R
	prayer request (Preview) Please pray to your god tonight for strength for me as I am not doing OK. I am struggling once again and as much as I know using is wrong and I have called many people and am in the middle of no where for the week I'm not sure I can keep going.	LizC	8	397	Aug 12, 2013 by Raman
	JFT August 9 The power of love (Preview) We begin to see that Gods love has been present all the time, just waiting for us to accept it. Basic Text, p. 46 = Gods love is the transforming power that drives our recovery. With that love, we find freedom from the hopeless, desperate cycle of using, self-hatred, and more using. With that love, w...	Dave R	2	272	Aug 11, 2013 by cdbuckberry
	JFT August 11 Active listening (Preview) Through active listening, we hear things that work for us. Basic Text, p. 106-107 = Most of us arrived in Narcotics Anonymous with a very poor ability to listen. But to take full advantage of the therapeutic value of one addict helping another, we must learn to listen actively. What is active liste...	Dave R	2	253	Aug 11, 2013 by cdbuckberry
	JFT August 10 Regulare prayer and meditation (Preview) Most of us pray when we are hurting. We learn that if we pray regularly, we wont be hurting as often or as intensely. Basic Text, p. 44 = Regular prayer and meditation are two more key elements in our new pattern of living. Our active addiction was more than just a bad habit waiting to be broken by force o...	Dave R	0	259	Aug 10, 2013 by Dave R
	New here, my experience (Preview) I hope I'm doing this right, I'm new and I don't even know if I belong here but I guess I figured this was a good way to find out... Here's my story. I'm 24. I was diagnosed with kidney stones when I was 14 and endometriosis when I was 18, both of which are very painful. To date I have had 11 surgeries in the pa...	IHateEndo	11	452	Aug 10, 2013 by avid
	Donations for Board needed (Preview) I hate to put these notifications out here, but we are currently 25.00 in arrears on our message board cost, and that will only bring us current. Anyone who can donate a few dollars to help offset the cost of this expense, please consider doing so as soon asap. Any surplus will be used to pay it in advanc...	John	2	284	Aug 9, 2013 by Mike M
	JFT August 8 Responsible recovery (Preview) ...we accept responsibility for our problems and see that were equally responsible for our solutions. Basic Text, p. 94 = Some of us, well accustomed to leaving our personal responsibilities to others, may attempt the same behavior in recovery. We quickly find out it doesnt work. For instance,...	Dave R	1	276	Aug 9, 2013 by cdbuckberry
	JFT August 7 The gratitude list (Preview) We focus on anything that isnt going our way and ignore all the beauty in our lives. Basic Text, p. 77 = Its easy to be grateful when everything runs smoothly. If we get a raise at work, were grateful. If we get married, were grateful. If someone surprises us with a nice present or an unasked favor, w...	Dave R	3	464	Aug 7, 2013 by cdbuckberry
	JFT August 6 The joy within (Preview) Since the beginning of our recovery, we have found that joy doesnt come from material things but from within ourselves. Basic Text, p. 103 = Some of us came to Narcotics Anonymous impoverished by our disease. Everything wed owned had been lost to our addiction. Once we got clean, we put all our ene...	Dave R	1	275	Aug 7, 2013 by cdbuckberry
	I'm an ADDICT named Allie.... (Preview) So I work as peer support for women just coming out of a treatment facility and I take them to meetings....I'm a pure-bred NA member because it works for me and makes the most sense to me... Since I've started this job I go to AA meetings once in a while if that's where the woman wants to go and I don't feel rig...	alyqat4	8	762	Aug 6, 2013 by alyqat4
	JFT August 5 The shape of our thoughts (Preview) By shaping our thoughts with spiritual ideals, we are freed to become who we want to be.Basic Text, p. 101=Addiction shaped our thoughts in its own way. Whatever their shape may once have been, they became misshapen once our disease took full sway over our lives. Our obsession with drugs and sel...	Dave R	2	322	Aug 6, 2013 by MIKEF
	Clean Time Celebration Question (Preview) Just had a quick question, new to the forums, wasn't sure where else to ask this. Tomorrow, I celebrate 6 months clean. I am working the next 10 days straight due to an election in my home state. My clean date is February 5th. Can I wait to celebrate once I'm able to fit a meeting into my work schedule, or if I...	mtyduk8	5	370	Aug 6, 2013 by MIKEF
	JFT August 4 When is a secret not a secret? (Preview) Addicts tend to live secret lives.... It is a great relief to get rid of all our secrets and to share the burden of our past. Basic Text, p. 32 = Weve heard it said that were as sick as our secrets. What do we keep secret, and why? We keep secret those things that cause us shame. We may hold onto such thing...	Dave R	2	276	Aug 4, 2013 by avid
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